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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 16 Apr 19 12.19pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

When Jimmy Mac managed the miss of the century PVA was waiting centre of goal for the square pass tap in. Benteke was beyond him. Not sure that this positional sense was meant to be in Hodgson's grand scheme of play.

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 16 Apr 19 12.36pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Shocking defender.

Back in the day when full backs actually had to be sound defensively he might not have even been a pro footballer except if he was a winger.

We have shipped a lot, a LOT of goals on the back of PVA’s defensive inadequacies.

 


"We need to look into the Oranges". Commander In Cheat, April 2019.

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 16 Apr 19 12.41pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Shocking defender.

Back in the day when full backs actually had to be sound defensively he might not have even been a pro footballer except if he was a winger.

We have shipped a lot, a LOT of goals on the back of PVA’s defensive inadequacies.

I believe he started his career as a winger.

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 16 Apr 19 1.12pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I believe he started his career as a winger.

He has no business as a left back.

He could play on the wing in the championship and do fairly well.

 


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View A89M's Profile A89M Flag Streatham 16 Apr 19 1.43pm Send a Private Message to A89M Add A89M as a friend

When he's committed he can be a great defender, just ask Wilf when PVA played against him a few years back.

Unfortunately most of my memories of PVA are from Sunderland days when he showed no effort and Sunday was a prime example of this. How can you see your man in front of you and not make any effort to get goal-side.. it's lazy. It wasn't a fast counter attack, De Bryune had an age to pick out the pass.

One of the posters said it, he needs competition to bring the best out of him. We saw this when Allardyce brought in both him and Schlupp.

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 16 Apr 19 1.43pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

If he HAS to go and we find someone who is willing to buy him. Who exactly should we replace him with?

Teams around us have the following at LB

Vinagre
Digne
Masina
Masuaku
Charlie Daniels
Charlie Taylor
Dummett
Bertrand

There's maybe 1 or 2 tops I would swap for PVA. I'd say for our level, he's a good player that has just had a season that has been below average but has also had a season and half for us that was good.

We want loyalty from our players, but we're very quick to turn on decent players. Can't have it both ways.

Hear hear !

 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 16 Apr 19 2.37pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

Actual stats show PVA 6th best Palace goal scorer, not bad for someone who is not allowed past the halfway line.

Ah, but when did he score them? They were all late goals as my point suggested.

 

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View steven_t92's Profile steven_t92 Flag Orpington 16 Apr 19 2.46pm Send a Private Message to steven_t92 Add steven_t92 as a friend

A perfect example of people getting carried away, there aren't many left back at our level (bottom half) that I would swap him for. We don't have anyone to compete with him either, Souare is done and Schlupp will be in midfield while Roy is here. Can't just leave ourselves exposed so have to have a very good replacement lined up.

 

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View glazedallover's Profile glazedallover Flag Allier 16 Apr 19 3.07pm Send a Private Message to glazedallover Add glazedallover as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

He has no business as a left back.

He could play on the wing in the championship and do fairly well.

Did you not start your career as a whinger?

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 16 Apr 19 6.02pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

If he HAS to go and we find someone who is willing to buy him. Who exactly should we replace him with?

Teams around us have the following at LB

Vinagre
Digne
Masina
Masuaku
Charlie Daniels
Charlie Taylor
Dummett
Bertrand

There's maybe 1 or 2 tops I would swap for PVA. I'd say for our level, he's a good player that has just had a season that has been below average but has also had a season and half for us that was good.

We want loyalty from our players, but we're very quick to turn on decent players. Can't have it both ways.

Unscramble him and he's the chips

 


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—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 16 Apr 19 6.03pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by FairweatherEagle

In summary a similar situation to Benteke then, though not as extreme. I think it makes sense to stick with them both and help them get their mojo back, as they sell for much anyway. At their best they both contribute plenty, easily the best sorts of players at what they do that we could hope to have. Roy did it with PVA before post Bristol City, he can do it again.

Both need decent competition from the beginning of next season.

 


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—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 16 Apr 19 6.35pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

so much dross written recently on here.

just another example of people over reacting and whinging like spoilt little kids.

 


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