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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 27 Jun 19 8.59pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


a) the guy is not advancing the club plus shown he sucks as main guy running stuff and why would you want him in their if you are a proper billionaire wanting to buy the club you wouldn't you want to own the thing not have someone holding a chunk of it.

b) he has lots of little companies setup which he then charges Palace fees to use them so he is taking money away the clear one most people have heard of is Smoke and Mirrors.

c) I have read all of the account details.

the guy is not even putting any of his own money into the club and look at commercial side it's poor yet he is suppose to be a top business man (look at West Ham owners that is proper business men)

he makes the same mistakes every year.

People need to quit with the whole saved the club rubbish a long time has passed now cant keep using that to defend his mistakes and lack of moving forward.

Edited by grumpymort (26 Jun 2019 11.17pm)

a) how does he “suck” at advancing the club? he has taken us from a bottom half championship club to a mid-table PL club in less than 10 years.

b) yes i have heard about smoke & mirrors, i assume they make all the videos/pics for our social media content...so he charges the club for doing so, hardly a crime or a huge amount of money in the grand scheme of things, its like what sako earnt in a month on a yearly basis.

c) if you had read the accounts you would see that we lost 40m so anyway of selling to invest in the team cant be seen as an issue by fans.

football nowadays is a business, like it or not thats the fact...its not like the good old days when a local boy done well businessman can run things on his own and break even.

lets make no bones about it, is SP perfect? nope, but does he have our best interests at heart? yes he does.

you remember peter risdale who owned leeds? im sure you do, local boy done good who brought his childhood club and overspent and f***ed them good & proper...well, parish isnt that person, and we should be grateful.

 


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View MikeCrete's Profile MikeCrete Flag Crete 27 Jun 19 9.35pm Send a Private Message to MikeCrete Add MikeCrete as a friend

Originally posted by woody6013

Dont know whether its a good move so early in his career, and there's a long road ahead. Maybe he needs to be reminded of what happened to Wilf., and stay put . At his age he doesnt need the money (in my opinion) as he will get much more 3/4/5 years ahead.
MONEY ISNT EVERYTHING IS IT!!!!!
At Palace he is loved by all of us and that should be a spur to stay, and not become a Man U pleb((and grab him cos they've got the lotsofcash mentality)) . Oh I do so h.te that team along with Arsenal/ManC and Chelski

Benteke gets 13 times his wage a week! Only so long people in any walk of life put up with that, if Benteke had gone to China we could have made AWB an offer & he might have accepted it for another year. Once his head was turned best to let him go & hopefully use the funds to improve the team.

 

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View MikeCrete's Profile MikeCrete Flag Crete 27 Jun 19 9.47pm Send a Private Message to MikeCrete Add MikeCrete as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

a) how does he “suck” at advancing the club? he has taken us from a bottom half championship club to a mid-table PL club in less than 10 years.

b) yes i have heard about smoke & mirrors, i assume they make all the videos/pics for our social media content...so he charges the club for doing so, hardly a crime or a huge amount of money in the grand scheme of things, its like what sako earnt in a month on a yearly basis.

c) if you had read the accounts you would see that we lost 40m so anyway of selling to invest in the team cant be seen as an issue by fans.

football nowadays is a business, like it or not thats the fact...its not like the good old days when a local boy done well businessman can run things on his own and break even.

lets make no bones about it, is SP perfect? nope, but does he have our best interests at heart? yes he does.

you remember peter risdale who owned leeds? im sure you do, local boy done good who brought his childhood club and overspent and f***ed them good & proper...well, parish isnt that person, and we should be grateful.

Leeds is a very good example, as is Sunderland. We have had enough drama court wise for a lifetime, stability may be a tad dull but we need to get a bigger revenue stream before we can really push on. Those of us of an older generation can recall false dawns & they are not worth it. Be happy we have a Chairman who cherishes the club, but wont risk its future for teh chance of short term glory.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Jun 19 10.22am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by zico murphy

If you were to draw a trajectory of the clubs progress on a graph from 1905 to now for league position, crowds, internationals etc you’d find since Parish has been in charge we’ve never been in a better place. I just don’t understand what he’s got to do before some people are happy. He used to come on these boards and communicate with fans which was refreshing. I guess he realised it wasn’t possible to please all despite his best efforts, success and stopped which is a real shame. For me he has to go down as the best chairman the club has had in my lifetime (55) and possibly the best ever. I hope he reads this because I’d like him to know not all fans are on his back and some fans appreciate his efforts and want him to continue the good work.

I can beat you by 20 years and I agree. When I first started supporting there was just the main stand and 3 terraces. You could walk from the Holmesdale to the "Sainsbury" end at halftime. We were a small club about to become a founder member of Division 4.

Since then it's been a roller coaster, but one which is now going up and shows no sign of plunging to the depths again. Someday we will slip into the Championship for a season or two. That's inevitable but the base we now have will enable us to recover. We may not yet be a big club but we are now one to be reckoned with. We are taken seriously and respected by others. To go from the bottom tier to being a regular member of the top one is quite an achievement. To do it without an infusion of unlimited funds from a super rich investor doubly so.

So those carping about what SP has overseen need to take a step back. You cannot please all the people all the time but this old supporter is pleased.

 


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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 28 Jun 19 11.14am Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


Since then it's been a roller coaster, but one which is now going up and shows no sign of plunging to the depths again. Someday we will slip into the Championship for a season or two. That's inevitable but the base we now have will enable us to recover. We may not yet be a big club but we are now one to be reckoned with. We are taken seriously and respected by others. To go from the bottom tier to being a regular member of the top one is quite an achievement. To do it without an infusion of unlimited funds from a super rich investor doubly so.

So those carping about what SP has overseen need to take a step back. You cannot please all the people all the time but this old supporter is pleased.

You are talking too much sense. Watch out for some moaner coming on saying 'Sell Johnny Byrne and we'll be out of the League never to return'

 

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View thechaddyboy's Profile thechaddyboy Flag Peterborough 28 Jun 19 12.37pm Send a Private Message to thechaddyboy Add thechaddyboy as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


a) the guy is not advancing the club plus shown he sucks as main guy running stuff and why would you want him in their if you are a proper billionaire wanting to buy the club you wouldn't you want to own the thing not have someone holding a chunk of it.

b) he has lots of little companies setup which he then charges Palace fees to use them so he is taking money away the clear one most people have heard of is Smoke and Mirrors.

c) I have read all of the account details.

the guy is not even putting any of his own money into the club and look at commercial side it's poor yet he is suppose to be a top business man (look at West Ham owners that is proper business men)

he makes the same mistakes every year.

People need to quit with the whole saved the club rubbish a long time has passed now cant keep using that to defend his mistakes and lack of moving forward.

Edited by grumpymort (26 Jun 2019 11.17pm)

Yeah, lets get a billionaire in, no guarantee he'll invest anything other than the original stake though. No love for the club, we'd be no more than another investment, something to fill the w&*k bank with, "Oh, I own a Premier club".
Rather someone running the ship with genuine interest & a passion for the club as opposed to making a quick buck or looking Johnny big balls in front of the boardroom.

Having watched Palace since 73 I'll never forget how close we came to losing everything, to make light of the work that SP & Co did is ignorance, are you even Palace ?

 


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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 28 Jun 19 5.14pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by thechaddyboy

Yeah, lets get a billionaire in, no guarantee he'll invest anything other than the original stake though. No love for the club, we'd be no more than another investment, something to fill the w&*k bank with, "Oh, I own a Premier club".
Rather someone running the ship with genuine interest & a passion for the club as opposed to making a quick buck or looking Johnny big balls in front of the boardroom.

Having watched Palace since 73 I'll never forget how close we came to losing everything, to make light of the work that SP & Co did is ignorance, are you even Palace ?

Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion.
I actually agree with him. Parish did save the club, So did the 3 other investors and Lloyds who agreed to do a deal on the freehold of Selhurst Park (you might need reminding CPFC2010 had no interest in saving the club unless they could get their hands on Selhurst).
Since then the club have done very well. You could say we have been lucky (to have been promoted so quick) and even luckier (to have stayed up and thrived). But Parish has made mistakes. Big ones. And he repeats those mistakes which is unforgivable in the unforgiving world of football/business. Are we not allowed to critise him because he was a quarter of an investment group that managed to purchase something very very cheap that had the potential to be worth ten times what they paid and is now worth probably 100 times what they paid.
Maybe there should be a time limit. Will it be alright to criticise him in say 10 years? or 100 maybe? or never?
You need to grow up mate. We are all flawed, all of us. You, me AND Steve Parish.

 

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View zico murphy's Profile zico murphy Flag woking 28 Jun 19 6.03pm Send a Private Message to zico murphy Add zico murphy as a friend

Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion.
I actually agree with him. Parish did save the club, So did the 3 other investors and Lloyds who agreed to do a deal on the freehold of Selhurst Park (you might need reminding CPFC2010 had no interest in saving the club unless they could get their hands on Selhurst).
Since then the club have done very well. You could say we have been lucky (to have been promoted so quick) and even luckier (to have stayed up and thrived). But Parish has made mistakes. Big ones. And he repeats those mistakes which is unforgivable in the unforgiving world of football/business. Are we not allowed to critise him because he was a quarter of an investment group that managed to purchase something very very cheap that had the potential to be worth ten times what they paid and is now worth probably 100 times what they paid.
Maybe there should be a time limit. Will it be alright to criticise him in say 10 years? or 100 maybe? or never?
You need to grow up mate. We are all flawed, all of us. You, me AND Steve Parish.

Your giving Parish no credit for the position we’re in which is our best ever, that’s just down to luck ? Yeah he’s made some mistakes, who doesn’t (I’m sure he’d probably do some things differently with the Benefit of hindsight). He’s the decision maker though and he doesn’t have the luxury of analysing from afar and offering opinions of how things could be done differently (like us fans). If your going to analyse his every mistake though you should also give credit where credits due. In my opinion if his stint as chairman was over today the history books would show him as our best ever chairman. I’m not saying people shouldn’t criticise him, nobody’s above criticism. I think it’s unfair though he’s criticised on every decision that doesn’t turn out to be for the best without balancing this with everything he gets right and my opinion he’s got far more right than wrong. like for instance getting the ground in the deal for the club which as Goldberg found out would’ve been a massive mistake not have insisted on this.

 

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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 28 Jun 19 6.32pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

Nicely put Zico, we are without doubt in a better position than ever before and SP has to take credit for that.

 

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View thechaddyboy's Profile thechaddyboy Flag Peterborough 28 Jun 19 7.51pm Send a Private Message to thechaddyboy Add thechaddyboy as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion.
I actually agree with him. Parish did save the club, So did the 3 other investors and Lloyds who agreed to do a deal on the freehold of Selhurst Park (you might need reminding CPFC2010 had no interest in saving the club unless they could get their hands on Selhurst).
Since then the club have done very well. You could say we have been lucky (to have been promoted so quick) and even luckier (to have stayed up and thrived). But Parish has made mistakes. Big ones. And he repeats those mistakes which is unforgivable in the unforgiving world of football/business. Are we not allowed to critise him because he was a quarter of an investment group that managed to purchase something very very cheap that had the potential to be worth ten times what they paid and is now worth probably 100 times what they paid.
Maybe there should be a time limit. Will it be alright to criticise him in say 10 years? or 100 maybe? or never?
You need to grow up mate. We are all flawed, all of us. You, me AND Steve Parish.

It was a gamble, regardless of what it cost them & what it may be worth today there wasn't anyone else breaking their necks to pull us out of the pit, yeah he's made mistakes but there's always a minority quick to throw him under the bus everytime someone with a few quid in their a*se pocket shows any interest.
We could be 'bigger', maybe with our own Mike Ashley or Arabic equivalent but at what cost, plenty of cash but unwilling to put any out in the transfer window.
We all want some level of success but not at the cost of boom & bust, I'll trade the misery of Goldberg & Jordan's occupation for the stability of Parish, even with his errors.

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 28 Jun 19 9.48pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

The future direction of the club seems more uncertain than for a number of years.
There are rumours about the Americans wanting out (although nothing official) , it’s all gone quiet on the new stand which Steve P hoped would commence being built this summer.
AWB has been sold, rumours are that Zaha could follow him out and Hodgson, Luka and Benteke all have one year left on their contracts.
This all adds up to the feeling of uncertainty and Parish is normally a clear thinker who has a vision for the club which I hope hasn’t been sidetracked.
Let’s hope for some clarity in the coming weeks as all the speculation is not helpful for the club.

 

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 29 Jun 19 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

The future direction of the club seems more uncertain than for a number of years.
There are rumours about the Americans wanting out (although nothing official) , it’s all gone quiet on the new stand which Steve P hoped would commence being built this summer.
AWB has been sold, rumours are that Zaha could follow him out and Hodgson, Luka and Benteke all have one year left on their contracts.
This all adds up to the feeling of uncertainty and Parish is normally a clear thinker who has a vision for the club which I hope hasn’t been sidetracked.
Let’s hope for some clarity in the coming weeks as all the speculation is not helpful for the club.

A very good post. The positive side of this is that Roy Hodgson is a good and good judge of players. It’s a dangerous time for the club if Zaha follows AWB out of the door, but as long as Hodgson and Parish keep their nerve as to which players come in to replace them, we should be OK....hopefully they can also bring in a few young players of PL quality to increase the depth of talent...A big ask and easy to get it wrong

 

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