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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Jun 19 8.05am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I feel sorry for the good people of Stretham.

I know MP's are representatives and not delegates but come on what exactly are this man's values?

"I support the Labour party

err no I don't I am independent

No wait we need a new party

No we don't I am back to being independent

Hang on we don't need a new party the Lib Dem's are the answer."

I hope he gets a kicking at the next GE mainly because he will not call a by election.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Jun 19 8.41am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

CU is a bottle job. He could’ve been Labour leader but bottled it because he wasn’t ready. So instead he watched labour be taken over by the Marxists he disagrees with running the Labour Party.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jun 19 8.49am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

CU is a bottle job. He could’ve been Labour leader but bottled it because he wasn’t ready. So instead he watched labour be taken over by the Marxists he disagrees with running the Labour Party.

He was seen as the rising star of the Labour party but alas I believe his star is currently dimmed.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Jun 19 9.46am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

He was seen as the rising star of the Labour party but alas I believe his star is currently dimmed.

At some point you have to make a stand about your values. Chuka changes these as often as people change their clothes. I think at the GE Labour will put him to the sword.

He would have been better to have stayed in the party on the back benches doing a "Churchill in the Wilderness". At some point Labour are going to realise that Corbyn isn't the answer and then they will look around for a new centre moderate leader which could have been him.

Bye bye Chuka no doubt a career at the BBC is in the offing.

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 14 Jun 19 10.44am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Pie on the leadership contest:

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jun 19 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I posted on HOL that I wouldn't be surprised if there was a dropout or two and today we have learned that Matt Hancock has pulled out of the contest.

I believe that Stewart is likely to gain most from Hancock's departure. Both McVey’s and Leadsom’s 20 supporters may well transfer almost unanimously to Johnson. If Raab cannot attract most of their supporters he will be in deep water and could decide to withdraw unless of course he doesn't get 33 votes or finishes bottom of the pile, as each scenario would see him eliminated automatically.

Javid has only four Brexiteer votes, accordingly, the majority of his votes, if he drops out, are likely to edge towards Jeremy Hunt.

Gove of course is still in the race for second place, albeit clinging on by his fingertips. His vote didn’t evaporate, although one suspects that if his use of cocaine hadn't been revealed he could well now be second.

Edited by Willo (14 Jun 2019 11.47pm)

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 14 Jun 19 9.06pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I posted on HOL that I wouldn't be surprised if there was a drpour or two and today we have learned that Matt Hancock has pulled out of the contest.

I believe that Stewart is likely to gain most from Hancock's departure. Both McVey’s and Leadsom’s 20 supporters may well transfer almost unanimously to Johnson. If Raab cannot attract most of their supporters he will be in deep water and could decide to withdraw unless of course he doesn't get 33 votes or finishes bottom of the pile, as each scenario would see him eliminated automatically.

Javid has only four Brexiteer votes, accordingly, the majority of his votes, if he drops out, are likely to edge towards Jeremy Hunt.

Gove of course is still in the race for second place, albeit clinging on by his fingertips. His vote didn’t evaporate, although one suspects that if his use of cocaine hadn't been revealed he could well now be second.

Edited by Willo (14 Jun 2019 12.23pm)

His detractors must be snorting into their handkerchiefs at this......

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jun 19 10.26pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I feel sorry for the good people of Stretham.

I know MP's are representatives and not delegates but come on what exactly are this man's values?

"I support the Labour party

err no I don't I am independent

No wait we need a new party

No we don't I am back to being independent

Hang on we don't need a new party the Lib Dem's are the answer."

I hope he gets a kicking at the next GE mainly because he will not call a by election.

He still represents his electorate so has no need to resign and force a by election. His job, as always, is to use his best judgements on behalf of the people he represents so if he feels the need to join the LibDems sobeit. Their opportunity to express their opinion comes at the next GE.

Personally I think his logic is impeccable. Labour has abandoned the values he believes in, so abandoned him. He tried to be part of a new movement in good faith but has had second thoughts, in the light of experience and with hindsight.

We can all do that. Especially those who voted Leave in 2016. Nothing should ever be set in stone and people denied the opportunity to express a change of mind.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 15 Jun 19 11.47pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He still represents his electorate so has no need to resign and force a by election. His job, as always, is to use his best judgements on behalf of the people he represents so if he feels the need to join the LibDems sobeit. Their opportunity to express their opinion comes at the next GE.

Personally I think his logic is impeccable. Labour has abandoned the values he believes in, so abandoned him. He tried to be part of a new movement in good faith but has had second thoughts, in the light of experience and with hindsight.

We can all do that. Especially those who voted Leave in 2016. Nothing should ever be set in stone and people denied the opportunity to express a change of mind.

Nope he's a conniving scheming scumbag. He's jumped ship three times in less than six months.
What happens If he doesn't agree with some Lib Dem policies? Jump ship again.
It is despicable c***s like him that make me weep & you have the brass testicles to say that he's acted 'Impecably' Winners never quit & quitters never win & that guy is a quitter

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 16 Jun 19 6.17am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


He still represents his electorate so has no need to resign and force a by election.

It's fairly obvious that he represents himself. He should quit and let his constituents decided whether he still represents them or not

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 16 Jun 19 7.01am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He still represents his electorate so has no need to resign and force a by election. His job, as always, is to use his best judgements on behalf of the people he represents so if he feels the need to join the LibDems sobeit. Their opportunity to express their opinion comes at the next GE.

Personally I think his logic is impeccable. Labour has abandoned the values he believes in, so abandoned him. He tried to be part of a new movement in good faith but has had second thoughts, in the light of experience and with hindsight.

We can all do that. Especially those who voted Leave in 2016. Nothing should ever be set in stone and people denied the opportunity to express a change of mind.


Except of course those of us who voted to remain in the EEC back in the seventies, don't like the behemoth that is the modern day EC, and voted to leave it (based on 40 odd years of experience of it). We expressed our change of mind, and get derided for it, so make your mind up!

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Jun 19 7.37am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It's fairly obvious that he represents himself. He should quit and let his constituents decided whether he still represents them or not

Agreed.

This is not a case of a man of integrity leaving his party on a point of principle. This is a politician who was miffed that he was on the back benches when he felt he should have a seat at the big table.

A man of principle would have stayed in the Labour party and fought for the values he believed in. Corbyn is 70 and won't be around for ever. My guess is that the next leader of the Labour party will be more mainstream than Jeremy. However if people like Chukka leave then the odds of the next leader being a Corbyn clone just goes up.

Having left he throws in his hat with a bunch of Tory losers, why? politically they have nothing in common apart from wanting to Remain so it was hardly a surprise when he felt he couldn't work with them.

I think it's time to bring in a rule to force a by election within 6 months if an MP leaves a party.

 


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