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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Jun 19 2.53pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I have never seen the central midfielder, Jerdy Schouten, and frankly, he doesn't seem very good at the age of 22. Maybe defensively, but I'd have to watch an hour of him on various matchday videos to make an opinion.

The left is quite good for the Dutch league at his age, but has a contract until 2022 (long time), so he wouldn't come cheap. And again.....you bring a left back from the Netherlands when you want a more grounded option for PVA, who is great attacking, but a bit flawed defensively? Well, that's exactly how all the Dutch defenders are.

On the subject of players from the Netherlands, Ajax youngsters Vaclav Cerny (21 yo) and Che Nunnely (20 yo) are finishing their contracts on the 30 of June and don't really have prospects of making the Ajax first team (or they do, but not as starters). They would welcome a higher salary and a chance to play in England. Get them, loan them to the Championship and in 1-2 years time, you might have a 15 million player ready to come in.

Also, some good options from the Netherlands are Andre Vidigal at just 20 yo from lowly Fortuna Sittard, but very talented (when you look at West Ham's second team and see they've already brought in similar players like Xande Silva and Mesaque Dju, you know they have a future) and Alkmaar's Gudmundsson (21 yo), though he would require a fee of about 2,5 million.

A few years ago I had a charming conversation with Bobby Gould who informed me that he took the long trip to Yeovil to watch Stuart Pearce playing for Wealdstone.I think he said that after about 10 mins he had made up his mind that he was the player for Coventry and he was signed by the midlands club.

Edited by Willo (07 Jun 2019 2.54pm)

 

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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 07 Jun 19 3.15pm Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

Jerdy Schouton is a bit like a slightly more attacking minded Jimmy Mac according to my friend who is a football nut that lives in the Hague and has decided that Excelsior will be his dutch team. Says he's no where near good enough from Prem and would be a low level Champioship/Top level League One player.

He supports Boro though so frankly his judgement is questionable.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Jun 19 4.48pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Not far from where I live there is a Premiership club that have made a number of signings from the Dutch League.

Of 4 highly expensive signings, only one has been a success.

Approach with caution

 


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View Son_of_Aylott's Profile Son_of_Aylott Flag Amsterdam 07 Jun 19 5.25pm Send a Private Message to Son_of_Aylott Add Son_of_Aylott as a friend

Our history with Dutch players is awful.Not one has been any good. From Jeroen Boere to Riedewald , I can't think of any. Only Kolka was reasonable, and he wasn't Dutch.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Jun 19 5.38pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Not far from where I live there is a Premiership club that have made a number of signings from the Dutch League.

Of 4 highly expensive signings, only one has been a success.

Approach with caution

I am guessing that the team in question is Brighton.
I can think of 3 players from last season who were signed from the Eredivisie :
Propper 6 Mill, Jahanbakhsh 17 Mill, Locadia 14 Mill.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Jun 19 5.57pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I am guessing that the team in question is Brighton.
I can think of 3 players from last season who were signed from the Eredivisie :
Propper 6 Mill, Jahanbakhsh 17 Mill, Locadia 14 Mill.

The other being Soufyan Ahannach who was signed 2 years ago

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Jun 19 6.16pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

The other being Soufyan Ahannach who was signed 2 years ago

Yes remember him now.
Don't think he was that expensive.Possibly 500,000 ?

Edited by Willo (07 Jun 2019 6.17pm)

 

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View the_mcanuff_stuff's Profile the_mcanuff_stuff Flag Caterham 07 Jun 19 6.27pm Send a Private Message to the_mcanuff_stuff Add the_mcanuff_stuff as a friend

Quite a lot of players have been signed from the Eredivisie to the PL over the years. Some have been great, some average, but a lot of dross as well. The trouble is that while the Dutch league is considered to be Europe's 6th best, there is quite a gulf in quality compared to the PL/Bundseliga/La Liga/Serie A. It's difficult to say if someone who is a good player in the Dutch League will make it in the PL. It is certainly a risk if it's a big money signing.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Jun 19 6.29pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Yes remember him now.
Don't think he was that expensive.Possibly 500,000 ?

Edited by Willo (07 Jun 2019 6.17pm)

Undisclosed...but that's 37m + spent for little return.

You must know this yourself, the BHA fans are as critical of their transfer record / scouting over the past few years as we are of ours.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Jun 19 6.36pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Undisclosed...but that's 37m + spent for little return.

You must know this yourself, the BHA fans are as critical of their transfer record / scouting over the past few years as we are of ours.

To be truthful I have hardly had any conversations with Brighton supporters about their team.In actual fact I have not had that many conversations with them about anything ! Don't come into contact with many Brighton supporters.

Edited by Willo (07 Jun 2019 6.37pm)

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Jun 19 7.00pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

To be truthful I have hardly had any conversations with Brighton supporters about their team.In actual fact I have not had that many conversations with them about anything ! Don't come into contact with many Brighton supporters.

Edited by Willo (07 Jun 2019 6.37pm)

Unfortunately I'm surrounded by them here !

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Jun 19 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Unfortunately I'm surrounded by them here !

I am further west than you and there are quite a few Palace supporters down my neck of the woods.Met another one the other week !

 

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