Roy Keane - another job, another flop
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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 23 Jun 19 11.54pm |
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A serious question : What football club is prepared to give this dud another chance to prove himself an endless liability ? if Keano keeps getting managerial jobs, i reckon i can send my CV to NASA to work as an astronaut, notwithstanding my paralysing fear of heights. Keano was a brilliant footballer and is an endlessly entertaining pundit. I cannot comment upon his mental health for fear of him appearing on my doorstep. But management pedigree ? pedigree chum.
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ex hibitionist  Hastings 24 Jun 19 12.08am |
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strange thing managing, some are good some are not and with some it depends, keano waved a magic wand at sunderland but once he progressed them enough poof! like Pardew and Dowie with us, Holloway was magic with blackpool and Plymouth, crap with Leicester 0k with us in champ but sh*te in the prem, but with keane it's the fact that he is a misanthropic sociopath with a superiority complex that seems to be the stumbling block that and his lack of anger management
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Teddy Eagle  24 Jun 19 12.09am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
A serious question : What football club is prepared to give this dud another chance to prove himself an endless liability ? if Keano keeps getting managerial jobs, i reckon i can send my CV to NASA to work as an astronaut, notwithstanding my paralysing fear of heights. Keano was a brilliant footballer and is an endlessly entertaining pundit. I cannot comment upon his mental health for fear of him appearing on my doorstep. But management pedigree ? pedigree chum. Indeed. Be interesting to see how he’d react if a player treated him the way he did Mick McCarthy. Still he is, as you say, a pundit who doesn’t tow the company line.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 24 Jun 19 7.11am |
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The press release states that he wanted to leave to pursue his managerial career, if that is true we should expect to see an appointment in the next few weeks. Otherwise most of us will conclude that he and Martin O'Neil fell out. My own take on Keane is that the very strengths that made him a great footballer are his weaknesses in management. His single mindedness and determination to win are great in a footballer. In a manager especially in the lower leagues this leads to insulting players who cannot do what you expect them to do. Great managers have that ability to understand the strength and weaknesses of their players and to set the team up accordingly. Keane is reported to have told Morrison he was not good enough to play for Eire at the World Cup camp where he had the bust up with McCarthy. He was team captain his job was to put his arm around Clinton and tell him he earned his place by right now go and set the world cup alight. He started well at Sunderland but then an ex manager once said that eventually the players see through all the BS and realise that the manager is fallible so they stop believing in him. Great managers somehow stop that happening. By the time he got to Ipswich I'm sure the players grapevine had informed them what to expect. I think he is finished.
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Jun 19 8.52am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
The press release states that he wanted to leave to pursue his managerial career, if that is true we should expect to see an appointment in the next few weeks. Otherwise most of us will conclude that he and Martin O'Neil fell out. My own take on Keane is that the very strengths that made him a great footballer are his weaknesses in management. His single mindedness and determination to win are great in a footballer. In a manager especially in the lower leagues this leads to insulting players who cannot do what you expect them to do. Great managers have that ability to understand the strength and weaknesses of their players and to set the team up accordingly. Keane is reported to have told Morrison he was not good enough to play for Eire at the World Cup camp where he had the bust up with McCarthy. He was team captain his job was to put his arm around Clinton and tell him he earned his place by right now go and set the world cup alight. He started well at Sunderland but then an ex manager once said that eventually the players see through all the BS and realise that the manager is fallible so they stop believing in him. Great managers somehow stop that happening. By the time he got to Ipswich I'm sure the players grapevine had informed them what to expect. I think he is finished. Well summarised, agree with all of the above. Management isn't always about chest beating and sound bites, it's about getting the best out of what you've got. This is where Neville, Scholes etc all came unstuck. They fail to recognise that Fergie favoured them for obedience, not leadership.
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| Teddy Eagle 24 Jun 19 11.22am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
The press release states that he wanted to leave to pursue his managerial career, if that is true we should expect to see an appointment in the next few weeks. Otherwise most of us will conclude that he and Martin O'Neil fell out. My own take on Keane is that the very strengths that made him a great footballer are his weaknesses in management. His single mindedness and determination to win are great in a footballer. In a manager especially in the lower leagues this leads to insulting players who cannot do what you expect them to do. Great managers have that ability to understand the strength and weaknesses of their players and to set the team up accordingly. Keane is reported to have told Morrison he was not good enough to play for Eire at the World Cup camp where he had the bust up with McCarthy. He was team captain his job was to put his arm around Clinton and tell him he earned his place by right now go and set the world cup alight. He started well at Sunderland but then an ex manager once said that eventually the players see through all the BS and realise that the manager is fallible so they stop believing in him. Great managers somehow stop that happening. By the time he got to Ipswich I'm sure the players grapevine had informed them what to expect. I think he is finished. Tony Cascarino said something similar about Hoddle in his book; that he expected them all to able to play to the same skill level he was capable of himself while disdaining things like tackling and other more physical aspects which weren’t his own strengths.
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Mr Fenandes  24 Jun 19 12.48pm |
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Stamped on nice guy Southgate (when he was on the floor already) and then absolutely shat his pants when Darren Patterson came over to clobber him. Had to keep taking swipes at tiny little Alf Inge Haaland. Would only start on Vieira with a tunnel full of players and a team of cameras in the way. Short man syndrome and only "hard" in the world of football.
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