NATO aggression! You just called the West degenerate and weak, now you call them aggresive when they have been anything but. What a strange world planet Palazio is - and the planets of the rest of the Putin apologists on here.

What kind of crap is that? I suppose you think that we should have voted Remain just so Putin couldn't use that.

What you are saying is quite ridiculous. The truth is the truth, no matter who says it. I know you have little experience of telling the truth, but know this.

I don't care what Putin says, true or not. He is the enemy.

We will live or die together depending on the outcome of all this, and our ideologies won't mean a damn thing.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Mar 2022 11.08pm)

You're a social liberalism apologist.

Larp as a conservative and turn out to be one of them.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

When your enemy is not just censoring what appears in the media of their own country, but spreading lies there, and in ours, you have little choice other than to respond in some way.

Some people seem to be in denial. We are at war. Not a hot war, but a cold war. A war in which the flow of information is critical.

When at war, different rules apply. No-one likes censorship. It should be avoided wherever possible, as there are obvious dangers in restricting free speech.

However, nothing is completely free, and completely free speech already doesn't exist. It's a myth. There are already laws which prohibit expressions which encourage illegal behaviour.

Nevertheless, if the only place these messages of support for Putin's "views" on social democracy and liberalism, were in our own space then, distasteful though they might be, I would have no wish to restrain them. They aren't though. They are being used by him as examples of how he is supported by the "people" of the west, and his own people are being taught to believe it's only the west's leaders who are against him.

My call is for people to understand the damage they are doing and show self-restraint in these circumstances. Not doing so is both irresponsible and unpatriotic. It won't stop Putin, but it would make the job of getting the truth known easier. Only a small step maybe, but small steps are all we as individuals can take, and small steps are better than no steps.

I agree about RT. I would much rather they had not been banned, or at least only AFTER the BBC had been banned in Russia. In much the same way I would not have withdrawn PL broadcasting or selling McDonalds. These are small opportunities to squeeze elements of the truth under the guard and start people asking questions.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

That's the point. We are at war. Remember what our fathers and grandfathers were taught, "Careless talk costs lives".

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

An undeclared cold war maybe, but this is as close to war as I ever want to see things get, and our behaviour ought to be predicated on that basis.

The whole of the west needs to pull together against a common enemy. No exceptions. The response so far has been impressive from the vast majority. It's therefore a pity when some decide political posturing is more important.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.