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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 Jul 19 9.23am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Can be difficult if you live on the 9th floor......

Nothing a little daisy chain can’t resolve

 

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View masonic_palace's Profile masonic_palace Flag Gatport Airwick 02 Jul 19 12.24pm Send a Private Message to masonic_palace Add masonic_palace as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

Perhaps in time you'll be able to download your car noise of choice

Or just get a passenger who can play the trombone....

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View Mr Palaceman's Profile Mr Palaceman Flag 02 Jul 19 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

On average more efficiently than using a small petrol or Diesel engine.

The infrastructure will come quickly now the cars are improving. In any case town dwellers can use their domestic supply. They just need access to an ICE car if doing longer runs.

And there in lies the problem. There is not enough power to go around. They know this, which is why they want you out of your car and into self driving cars that you don't own but even then, there simply isn't going to be enough power.

Also imagine when 5G rolls out properly and even your dustbin is connected to the web, Everything will need to be plugged in or charged.

Then there are the cars themselves. The batteries are a real future problem. In a few years time your going to have a lot of dead electric cars as it will be make more sense to buy a new car than change the batteries, so the cars will be scrapped or sold for parts.

There is no doutb in my mind that there is a role for electric vehicles to play but they are not the solution to the transport problems we face.

Imagine, a future workplace..

'Why are you late?' "Sorry guv, charge ran low on the way in. Only just made it to the charge point. You know how it is".

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 Jul 19 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

And there in lies the problem. There is not enough power to go around. They know this, which is why they want you out of your car and into self driving cars that you don't own but even then, there simply isn't going to be enough power.

Also imagine when 5G rolls out properly and even your dustbin is connected to the web, Everything will need to be plugged in or charged.

Then there are the cars themselves. The batteries are a real future problem. In a few years time your going to have a lot of dead electric cars as it will be make more sense to buy a new car than change the batteries, so the cars will be scrapped or sold for parts.

There is no doutb in my mind that there is a role for electric vehicles to play but they are not the solution to the transport problems we face.

Imagine, a future workplace..

'Why are you late?' "Sorry guv, charge ran low on the way in. Only just made it to the charge point. You know how it is".

I assume car ownership will diminish and autonomous vehicles slowly take over, hopefully thoroughly integrated with public transport. The idea of being picked up, taken to a station and then picked up at the other end is attractive.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Jul 19 1.07pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I assume car ownership will diminish and autonomous vehicles slowly take over, hopefully thoroughly integrated with public transport. The idea of being picked up, taken to a station and then picked up at the other end is attractive.


The younger generation will accept autonomous cars more easily than we will. Owning a car is a rite of passage and a symbol of having made it however over time I think that will change and it will become as disposal as the rest of the stuff we buy.

 


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jeeagles Flag 02 Jul 19 3.32pm

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

And there in lies the problem. There is not enough power to go around. They know this, which is why they want you out of your car and into self driving cars that you don't own but even then, there simply isn't going to be enough power.

Also imagine when 5G rolls out properly and even your dustbin is connected to the web, Everything will need to be plugged in or charged.

Then there are the cars themselves. The batteries are a real future problem. In a few years time your going to have a lot of dead electric cars as it will be make more sense to buy a new car than change the batteries, so the cars will be scrapped or sold for parts.

There is no doutb in my mind that there is a role for electric vehicles to play but they are not the solution to the transport problems we face.

Imagine, a future workplace..

'Why are you late?' "Sorry guv, charge ran low on the way in. Only just made it to the charge point. You know how it is".

There was a suggestion that batteries could be standardised, therefore, on a long journey, you could pull into a service station. Take the old one out, and drop a new one in. The service station would then recharge the battery and sell it on. Pessimistic people would point out that getting car manufacturers to come together and do something like this would be difficult.

Additional demand on the national grid is an interesting problem. Electricity can be generated domestically, using nuclear or renewable energy. There are lots of opponents to this, but Britain is excellently placed to generate this type of energy, and it would remove the reliance on Russian gas and Middle Eastern oil.

 

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deleted user Flag 02 Jul 19 3.56pm

The motion sickness stomper . Steady as she goes.


Edited by dollardays (02 Jul 2019 10.21pm)

 

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deleted user Flag 02 Jul 19 10.11pm

Originally posted by Badger11

The younger generation will accept autonomous cars more easily than we will. Owning a car is a rite of passage and a symbol of having made it however over time I think that will change and it will become as disposal as the rest of the stuff we buy.

There will probably even come a time where it's not even an option to drive your own car anymore. Automation across the board. An exciting yet unnerving future lies ahead.

We need types like Elon Musk for all of his faults to propel us forward. At the same time we need to appreciate the negatives that AI advancements can also help come into being. Get those old sci-fi comics out and witness the future!

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 02 Jul 19 11.19pm

Originally posted by dollardays

The motion sickness stomper . Steady as she goes.


Edited by dollardays (02 Jul 2019 10.21pm)

I prefer the car sickness shoer

Edited by ChrisGC (02 Jul 2019 11.22pm)

 

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View Mr Palaceman's Profile Mr Palaceman Flag 03 Jul 19 2.06am Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

There was a suggestion that batteries could be standardised, therefore, on a long journey, you could pull into a service station. Take the old one out, and drop a new one in. The service station would then recharge the battery and sell it on. Pessimistic people would point out that getting car manufacturers to come together and do something like this would be difficult.

Additional demand on the national grid is an interesting problem. Electricity can be generated domestically, using nuclear or renewable energy. There are lots of opponents to this, but Britain is excellently placed to generate this type of energy, and it would remove the reliance on Russian gas and Middle Eastern oil.

Your right, we are excellently placed to take advantage but there is no way we can generate enough electricity for the kind of vehicle use we have now. When 5G is rolled out, energy consumption will explode and imagine 10 million people coming home from work and charging their cars of a evening. Also, although swapping batteries at a stn would be a good idea if it could be standardised, again what do you do with the 100's of millions of dead/end of life batteries that will have to be made.

There is a very good alternative to the problem and that is Hydrogen cells. The tech is there now and you would go to the "Petrol stn" to fill up as now. people could drive as now and there are zero "ish" emissions.

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However, I can't see this happening as they want us all out of our own cars and paying subscription prices to travel and that means electric cars, so that's what policy makers push.

We are constantly being told that we are causing a problem with all the cars we have and it is a problem, no doutb but cars, aircraft, etc, while polluting, are not the worst offenders. That would be agriculture and oil/plastic production but to tackle that you would need to sanction big business and that will never happen while the ordinary Joe can be blamed, controlled and made to pay hard earned guilt money on an electric car.

I can see this being like a VHS vs Betamax type thing. The best solution may not be what we end up with.

 


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