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cryrst The garden of England 04 Jul 19 1.55pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger There is a world of difference between being the victim of an accident and choosing/being addicted to self inflicted harm. Death is inevitable and the nature of our deaths is usually unknown, but that does not mean that I will play Russian roulette for kicks. As soon as you go out of your front door it's that game. I will have the opportunity not to ask why me !
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cryrst

The garden of England 04 Jul 19 1.55pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There is a world of difference between being the victim of an accident and choosing/being addicted to self inflicted harm.

Death is inevitable and the nature of our deaths is usually unknown, but that does not mean that I will play Russian roulette for kicks.

As soon as you go out of your front door it's that game.
I will have the opportunity not to ask why me !

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cryrst The garden of England 04 Jul 19 1.58pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Did you sympathise with the executioner when hanging was ended? I'm sure mr pierpoints family were none too impressed.
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The garden of England 04 Jul 19 1.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Did you sympathise with the executioner when hanging was ended?

I'm sure mr pierpoints family were none too impressed.

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martin2412 Living The Dream 04 Jul 19 2.02pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'm not sure as to the precise details as it relates to gambling but I do have some observations to relate to the 'nanny state'. Roughly about 15 percent of the population have an IQ under 90. This is obviously going to have a major impact on their lives in a sophisticated society that is geared to relieving a person from their hard earned cash. As a government exists for everybody.....those low IQ individuals just as much as it exists for the average or genetically gifted it's important that at least some safe-guards exist for those that are easily fooled or addicted. So, for me, a certain level of nanny state has some justification......Whether it's appropriate for this case I don't know. But I will say that I regard regular gambling as a very risky activity. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jul 2019 10.58am) And therein lies the problem with a lot in this country. Everything is aimed at the lowest point of intelligence. Even the brightest kids are being held back in school because teachers aren't allowed to confuse the thick kids at the back of the class too much. And don't get me started on the target audience of Love Island.
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Living The Dream 04 Jul 19 2.02pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm not sure as to the precise details as it relates to gambling but I do have some observations to relate to the 'nanny state'.

Roughly about 15 percent of the population have an IQ under 90. This is obviously going to have a major impact on their lives in a sophisticated society that is geared to relieving a person from their hard earned cash.

As a government exists for everybody.....those low IQ individuals just as much as it exists for the average or genetically gifted it's important that at least some safe-guards exist for those that are easily fooled or addicted.

So, for me, a certain level of nanny state has some justification......Whether it's appropriate for this case I don't know.

But I will say that I regard regular gambling as a very risky activity.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jul 2019 10.58am)

And therein lies the problem with a lot in this country. Everything is aimed at the lowest point of intelligence. Even the brightest kids are being held back in school because teachers aren't allowed to confuse the thick kids at the back of the class too much.

And don't get me started on the target audience of Love Island.

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cryrst The garden of England 04 Jul 19 2.11pm
Originally posted by martin2412 And therein lies the problem with a lot in this country. Everything is aimed at the lowest point of intelligence. Even the brightest kids are being held back in school because teachers aren't allowed to confuse the thick kids at the back of the class too much. And don't get me started on the target audience of Love Island. And poor people dont know about healthy eating. So tax nice sweet things to force them to buy cheaper nice sweet things. The only reason they dont eat healthy is it doesnt come in a box with findus saying stick in toaster.
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cryrst

The garden of England 04 Jul 19 2.11pm

Originally posted by martin2412

And don't get me started on the target audience of Love Island.

And poor people dont know about healthy eating.
So tax nice sweet things to force them to buy cheaper nice sweet things.
The only reason they dont eat healthy is it doesnt come in a box with findus saying stick in toaster.

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becky over the moon 04 Jul 19 2.23pm
How about doing something about the (usually fat, dyed hair and tattooed) women who go to the counter with 15 scratchcards to be checked (I suppose too daft to do it themselves) and then buy new cards with any winnings (always far less than the value of the cards checked) and then............................................. expect you stand and wait whilst they scratch the new ones off, then......................... rinse and repeat.... A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 04 Jul 19 2.23pm

How about doing something about the (usually fat, dyed hair and tattooed) women who go to the counter with 15 scratchcards to be checked (I suppose too daft to do it themselves) and then buy new cards with any winnings (always far less than the value of the cards checked) and then.............................................

expect you stand and wait whilst they scratch the new ones off, then.........................

rinse and repeat....

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Teddy Eagle 04 Jul 19 2.28pm
Originally posted by cryrst And poor people dont know about healthy eating. So tax nice sweet things to force them to buy cheaper nice sweet things. The only reason they dont eat healthy is it doesnt come in a box with findus saying stick in toaster. Poor people are shocking aren�t they? Firstly they choose to live miserable lives just to cheat the country out of the tax they�d pay if they earned more, they clutter up inner city areas that could be gentrified by better people and as if that wasn�t enough they don�t even eat the right kind of food. Do Lidl even sell quinoa?
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Teddy Eagle

04 Jul 19 2.28pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Poor people are shocking aren�t they? Firstly they choose to live miserable lives just to cheat the country out of the tax they�d pay if they earned more, they clutter up inner city areas that could be gentrified by better people and as if that wasn�t enough they don�t even eat the right kind of food. Do Lidl even sell quinoa?

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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 04 Jul 19 2.29pm
Originally posted by cryrst And poor people dont know about healthy eating. So tax nice sweet things to force them to buy cheaper nice sweet things. The only reason they dont eat healthy is it doesnt come in a box with findus saying stick in toaster. Not true even doctors don't know about true healthy eating are they classed as poor no. People in here mention about IQ again is way off because some one does not do well at IQ testing doesn't make them dumb far from people have skill sets which IQ has nothing to do. I don't mind some nannying if done correctly the problem is the people that set a lot of this don't know themselves so they get it so wrong. Clear examples are nhs giving misleading information on healthy eating and then you have government going on about fat is bad then sugar now animal products it's all driven from influence from other parties with agenda most to do with $$$ Now regarding the gamblin side yes people should have the right to choose but when you have a % of people that can't control actions they will need some help well it's easier to restrict then setup the services to help those people look at mental health services awful yet it's a big thing on the rise. Not nice those people will be losing jobs but they will get pay offs so it's not case of your fired good bye also their is way more to the story then what is being told. (VPN) - [Link] (Alt VPN) - [Link]
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US/Thailand/UK 04 Jul 19 2.29pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Not true even doctors don't know about true healthy eating are they classed as poor no.

People in here mention about IQ again is way off because some one does not do well at IQ testing doesn't make them dumb far from people have skill sets which IQ has nothing to do.

I don't mind some nannying if done correctly the problem is the people that set a lot of this don't know themselves so they get it so wrong.

Clear examples are nhs giving misleading information on healthy eating and then you have government going on about fat is bad then sugar now animal products it's all driven from influence from other parties with agenda most to do with $$$

Now regarding the gamblin side yes people should have the right to choose but when you have a % of people that can't control actions they will need some help well it's easier to restrict then setup the services to help those people look at mental health services awful yet it's a big thing on the rise.

Not nice those people will be losing jobs but they will get pay offs so it's not case of your fired good bye also their is way more to the story then what is being told.

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Stirlingsays 04 Jul 19 2.38pm
Originally posted by martin2412 And therein lies the problem with a lot in this country. Everything is aimed at the lowest point of intelligence. Even the brightest kids are being held back in school because teachers aren't allowed to confuse the thick kids at the back of the class too much. And don't get me started on the target audience of Love Island. If you are going to educate everybody it's going to be a problem. A problem for intelligent people to solve. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 Jul 19 2.38pm

Originally posted by martin2412

And don't get me started on the target audience of Love Island.

If you are going to educate everybody it's going to be a problem.

A problem for intelligent people to solve.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 04 Jul 19 2.57pm
Originally posted by grumpymort People in here mention about IQ again is way off because some one does not do well at IQ testing doesn't make them dumb far from people have skill sets which IQ has nothing to do. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 Jul 19 2.57pm

Originally posted by grumpymort

People in here mention about IQ again is way off because some one does not do well at IQ testing doesn't make them dumb far from people have skill sets which IQ has nothing to do.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Badger11 Beckenham 04 Jul 19 3.14pm
Originally posted by cryrst What about the employees who are losing their jobs. No pity for those individuals? Yes of course but when I refer to the Bookies I mean the companies not the staff. People who have worked in bookmakers are usually sort after by other employees so hopefully they will not be out of work long. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 04 Jul 19 3.14pm

Originally posted by cryrst

What about the employees who are losing their jobs.
No pity for those individuals?

Yes of course but when I refer to the Bookies I mean the companies not the staff. People who have worked in bookmakers are usually sort after by other employees so hopefully they will not be out of work long.

One more point

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 04 Jul 19 3.25pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Bit harsh. That�s like blaming coal miners for destroying the atmosphere. Excellent. I just won a fiver. I bet that Brexit and climate change would make an appearance before the end of the second page. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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