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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Jul 19 11.49am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Braunstoneagle was right then, your claim to know for a fact was incorrect.
Most posts that claim to be factually correct are often a figment of the posters imagination.

Game shot.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Jul 19 11.52am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Saying we are operationally fine isn’t quite correct if a professional football club’s main expense is wages which are incidentally from the club’s business model, and then transfers, which are again expensive from the business model. Those will take a while to sort out.

Tell people we’re operationally find at half time at the first home game when there’s no food, warm beer and coke. We might be fine in the main stand or in the Prem because we’ve spent more than a club of our size does or can afford if you factor in a few years into the future but I wouldn’t call it sound or fine until Zaha has left or retired and there’s some consistent and coherent strategies.

No food, warm beer and coke.
Sounds like the perfect house party to me

 

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Tipp_Eagle Flag Tipperary 15 Jul 19 12.33pm

Hi , I have asked this one before . i know we get 100 mill plus for just staying in the prem league ! but what about the income from say the sponsors and ticket sales and merchandise , does anyone know what the income from that is , also we have released a good few players the end of last season so that should be a good saving in the wages department ?

 


oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 19 12.37pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Braunstoneagle was right then, your claim to know for a fact was incorrect.
Most posts that claim to be factually correct are often a figment of the posters imagination.

"Oh dear, again the same question which I’m guessing is coming from a sense of misplaced self righteousness.

I cannot confess to reading the sun or any other newspaper actually apart from the occasional metro however I do search pretty hard on a daily basis for any news, quite probably like a lot of other fans.

Given our track record of not signing anyone till very late in the window, which is a ridiculous game of brinkmanship considering the risk of losing out on targets, the pathetic start we make to each season and the fact that a transfer window is not sporadically announced as a surprise to anyone, coupled with the non-existence of any noteworthy news, I can say with a degree of certainty we are not ‘close’ to signing anybody. I could be wrong of course I could, however the odds are slim.

I said I know for a ‘fact’ in an exhausted attempt to sarcastically answer another pussy post from somebody who feels as though they can reply to a genuine opening for discussion by attempting shoot it down. It does not make you look clever or righteous, it very much makes you look thick as mince and like some bitter, sad old c u next Tuesday.

If you don’t want to discuss, or don’t have something of substance to say like “You never know, we could.... etc.” Then don’t post. Somebody did actually come back to me on this original post and I was grateful for their input and insight. I’d happily engage anyone with anything interesting to say in meaningful conversation."


To you, Mapletree and Cryst - Please get your bins or refer here to the dictionary definition of sarcasm:

The use of irony to mock or convey contempt

Whoooosh!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jul 19 12.41pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I have reached the pissed off stage with our current transfer activity. I have still got the angry phase to come, and then just abject acceptance. The life of a Palace fan.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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Tipp_Eagle Flag Tipperary 15 Jul 19 12.45pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I have reached the pissed off stage with our current transfer activity. I have still got the angry phase to come, and then just abject acceptance. The life of a Palace fan.

I have been at the acceptance part for about 3 windows! now im at the " what will be will be phase and we wont buy anyone phase "

 


oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Jul 19 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Aren't you the fellow who complained when I changed the title to "The moaning about the lack of transfer activity thread" yet you now seem to be the chief moaner

Yes I am the one who complained, given my original statement was a genuine question, and posed as such, around the finances of comparative clubs who seem to spend against ours. This was based on the fact I know nothing about the finances of running a club and was curious. I also posed this question with a subtle undertone of moaning but it what I had intended to be a satirical, light hearted manner. This question was, I suggest, answered quite well I believe by a 'Rudi Hedman' and I was grateful for the interaction. That should have been that really but was happy for others to add contributions of course.

I then posted a genuine moan, perhaps as an act of rebellion, to give credence to the newly named thread.

I am however beginning to get somewhat annoyed with the usual half-wits who seem to answer back to anything that constitutes a display of frustration against our lack of transfer activity with nothing whatsoever to say of substance.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 15 Jul 19 1.27pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Saying we are operationally fine isn’t quite correct if a professional football club’s main expense is wages which are incidentally from the club’s business model, and then transfers, which are again expensive from the business model. Those will take a while to sort out.

Tell people we’re operationally find at half time at the first home game when there’s no food, warm beer and coke. We might be fine in the main stand or in the Prem because we’ve spent more than a club of our size does or can afford if you factor in a few years into the future but I wouldn’t call it sound or fine until Zaha has left or retired and there’s some consistent and coherent strategies.

Rudi - always one for a pedantic response.

Operations in an accounting view is the standard income and outgoings. Transfers would be deemed an one off expenses so is not operational.

By saying operationally we are fine means we can cover all standard outgoings with incomings i.e wages are covered by current revenue streams i.e we are not needing to sell players just to keep operating.

This is clearly better than our championship days when we lost money operationally almost every season

 

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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 15 Jul 19 1.40pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by Tipp_Eagle

Hi , I have asked this one before . i know we get 100 mill plus for just staying in the prem league ! but what about the income from say the sponsors and ticket sales and merchandise , does anyone know what the income from that is , also we have released a good few players the end of last season so that should be a good saving in the wages department ?

Tipp in last years account total income was £150.3m.

This is made up of gate receipts 10.9, sponsors 9.4, other commercial 5.8 and 'other' income of 3.0 with broadcasting being 121.1

So over 80% of our income is from Sky and other TV/radio revenue.

Incidentally total wages were £117m

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 15 Jul 19 1.42pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Yes I am the one who complained, given my original statement was a genuine question, and posed as such, around the finances of comparative clubs who seem to spend against ours. This was based on the fact I know nothing about the finances of running a club and was curious. I also posed this question with a subtle undertone of moaning but it what I had intended to be a satirical, light hearted manner. This question was, I suggest, answered quite well I believe by a 'Rudi Hedman' and I was grateful for the interaction. That should have been that really but was happy for others to add contributions of course.

I then posted a genuine moan, perhaps as an act of rebellion, to give credence to the newly named thread.

I am however beginning to get somewhat annoyed with the usual half-wits who seem to answer back to anything that constitutes a display of frustration against our lack of transfer activity with nothing whatsoever to say of substance.

You seem to be frustrated with people picking you up on the claim to know for a fact. It's not people being righteous it is just pointless to make things up.
I tend to think Freeman has a list of targets and is in initial negotiations with clubs, but nothing is ever straightforward as we know unless you throw loads of cash in. Some will come off and some won't, but we won't know the facts until they are announced.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Jul 19 1.47pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

"Oh dear, again the same question which I’m guessing is coming from a sense of misplaced self righteousness.

I cannot confess to reading the sun or any other newspaper actually apart from the occasional metro however I do search pretty hard on a daily basis for any news, quite probably like a lot of other fans.

Given our track record of not signing anyone till very late in the window, which is a ridiculous game of brinkmanship considering the risk of losing out on targets, the pathetic start we make to each season and the fact that a transfer window is not sporadically announced as a surprise to anyone, coupled with the non-existence of any noteworthy news, I can say with a degree of certainty we are not ‘close’ to signing anybody. I could be wrong of course I could, however the odds are slim.

I said I know for a ‘fact’ in an exhausted attempt to sarcastically answer another pussy post from somebody who feels as though they can reply to a genuine opening for discussion by attempting shoot it down. It does not make you look clever or righteous, it very much makes you look thick as mince and like some bitter, sad old c u next Tuesday.

If you don’t want to discuss, or don’t have something of substance to say like “You never know, we could.... etc.” Then don’t post. Somebody did actually come back to me on this original post and I was grateful for their input and insight. I’d happily engage anyone with anything interesting to say in meaningful conversation."


To you, Mapletree and Cryst - Please get your bins or refer here to the dictionary definition of sarcasm:

The use of irony to mock or convey contempt

Whoooosh!

CryRst
But you got something right.
Our pathetic starts to the season.

 

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View Crystal_Clear's Profile Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 15 Jul 19 1.56pm Send a Private Message to Crystal_Clear Add Crystal_Clear as a friend

Seeing today that with Maguire off to Utd for 80m, Leicester are taking Lewis Dunk for 40m. That's all we need those pieces of driftwood on the coast having money to spend. They wont sod about and wait to the 11th hour of the transfer window.

 

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