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 cryrst  The garden of England 26 Aug 19 6.40am |
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JohnB  26 Aug 19 6.52am |
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What made Stokes' innings even more impressive was for a ginger to last that long in the heat.
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| chris123 hove actually 26 Aug 19 7.13am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Who is my mate? Anyway If ability equalled leadership then Root would be a good captain as he's the best batsman in England. No ability doesn't equal leadership.... We can see that Botham wasn't much as a captain either and he had all the ability there was.....same as Flintoff. Leadership, is the ability to manage and inspire or engage different personality types towards the same ends.. Beefy was quite young when appointed, 24 and West Indies were a formidable opponent in those days.
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| beak Online croydon 26 Aug 19 8.04am |
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I was very shocked by Australia's tactics yesterday,Stokes was on a roll but why not put close fielders in Leach's face? My conclusion is that the "sandpaper" episode lingers and they did not want to be seen as bad guys. Previous Oz teams would have been far more proactive, they waited for "it" to happen and it didn't !
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| Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 26 Aug 19 9.27am |
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It was clearly meant to be. The Aussies burning their review on that leach LBW that was clearly nowhere near out and then the very next over Stokes nailed in front and not given. Dropped catches, albeit difficult chances and the Lyon dropped ball runout. It was clearly meant to be England’s day. Stokes has now played 2 innings this summer that could be classed as an innings of a lifetime. Just brilliant
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| Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 26 Aug 19 9.54am |
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Duplicate Edited by Bexley Eagle (26 Aug 2019 9.55am)
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| rob1969 Banstead Surrey 26 Aug 19 10.38am |
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Originally posted by rob1969
67 all out ! What a shambles. On a par with Roy’s team loosing to Iceland What a difference a day - or two - makes! Best recovery since Palace were 0-3 down at half time to Liverpool. Edited by rob1969 (26 Aug 2019 10.08am)
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Frickin Saweet  South Cronx 28 Aug 19 10.34am |
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Originally posted by JohnB
What made Stokes' innings even more impressive was for a ginger to last that long in the heat. As a fair skinned ginger myself I do often wonder what sun cream he uses when on the field all day and whether it's a special kind that doesn't run in your eyes with the profuse sweating. Also does he re-apply during lunch and tea? I once heard John Hartson talking about how he couldn't play in warm European countries because he couldn't be out in the sun all day. The idea of playing football in Scotland appeals to me greatly - perfect weather and the standard would make me look half decent.
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| Midlands Eagle 28 Aug 19 11.10am |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
Jonny Bairstow is a ginger too.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Aug 19 12.36pm |
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Sun block lasts for 90 minutes and has to be applied 20 mins before.
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| Goal Machine The Cronx 29 Aug 19 1.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep, Roy is never a test player and Curran needs to come in for Woakes......I'm not sure Anderson can physically play hard test cricket anymore. Denly needs replacing....there are several better county batsman than him and always were....I like Hain. But selection has been a particular weakness of England's management for some time now.....that and Root's 'I want my mates' input. Stokes should be captain. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Aug 2019 7.45pm) The criticism aimed at Denly is unfair, he's been a key player this series. In both innings at Lords, his consecutive 50+ partnerships with Burns pulled us out of very hairy positions. In the first innings at Headingley, he was the only batsman to show any kind of residence - faced 49 balls, 12 runs - not great, but was by far our best that innings. He then made a crucial partnership with Root which pulled us back into contention. His place is cemented for the time being and rightfully so. I'd like to try Denly to open with Burns and give Roy a chance at number 4. Opening the batting with a new ball in test cricket is a specialist skill. Roy doesn't open at county level so it can't be expected for him to do so at test standard. If that fails, Ollie Pope is in good form so perhaps worth a go. There will be a selection headache when Anderson is back - I feel it will either Buttler, Woakes or Roy to get the chop. An Anderson/Archer Vs Smith battle would be a great watch. Captaincy is an issue. As we have seen in the past and as we're seeing now, so many players lose form when given the armband. I'd hate to risk that with Stokes. Root doesn't appear to be tactically astute and its effecting his batting, however outside him and Stokes there are no obvious candidates. The pundits suggest Buttler has leadership qualities and is a excellent tactician, although his form puts him out of contention.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Aug 19 1.22pm |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
The criticism aimed at Denly is unfair, he's been a key player this series. In both innings at Lords, his consecutive 50+ partnerships with Burns pulled us out of very hairy positions. In the first innings at Headingley, he was the only batsman to show any kind of residence - faced 49 balls, 12 runs - not great, but was by far our best that innings. He then made a crucial partnership with Root which pulled us back into contention. His place is cemented for the time being and rightfully so. I'd like to try Denly to open with Burns and give Roy a chance at number 4. Opening the batting with a new ball in test cricket is a specialist skill. Roy doesn't open at county level so it can't be expected for him to do so at test standard. If that fails, Ollie Pope is in good form so perhaps worth a go. There will be a selection headache when Anderson is back - I feel it will either Buttler, Woakes or Roy to get the chop. An Anderson/Archer Vs Smith battle would be a great watch. Captaincy is an issue. As we have seen in the past and as we're seeing now, so many players lose form when given the armband. I'd hate to risk that with Stokes. Root doesn't appear to be tactically astute and its effecting his batting, however outside him and Stokes there are no obvious candidates. The pundits suggest Buttler has leadership qualities and is a excellent tactician, although his form puts him out of contention. Joe Denly's test average is 24.33. My contention is that there are far better batsman in the county system.....and frankly that was always the case....for example his first class average after 201 games is 36.47. I view his selection as a wasted opportunity.....If you are telling me that Joe Denly is amongst the six best batsman in England we just differ wildly. With the captaincy....I suppose I just don't rate Root in that capacity and feel that this is just another example of poor selection that has been a focal point of England's management for some time now.
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