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Originally posted by mileend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Great article' by bexleydave

this article does express accurately what I see the problems with the club are and without excellent recruitment even if we can find a way of staying up this year we are going to be at the end of the road with this group by next summer

the performance level will be dropping among the key group, Zaha will definitely be gone in 12 months and others contracts will be run down or in the last year

it's very hard for us to recruit just one or two key positions - we could have 8 or 9 to fill in one summer - it is hard to see how that can go well judging by our recent performance in the transfer market

for all his positives I think it is true to say that Parish has been extremely fortunate even if he has made some of his own luck with having and picking the right rescue managers that were available

it's happened so often I am sure he just believes it is his own talent but I worry a lot of it has been luck and that is going to run out

picking up of affordable new talent - fees and wages - does seem beyond the current management / directors

I don't feel bad towards the Americans for wanting out - they must have a lot of sympathy for the view expressed in this article and want to avoid losing their shirts in a relegation

it's not all gloom and doom - I think Zaha will stay and do a good job even if his heart won't be in it in the same way but he still has to put himself in the shop window to get the move he wants

and Roy has his method that will be effective enough with the current group

but it is going to start crashing down unless there are some inspirational new signings in the next week and again in January and again next summer

I think we will stay up, just, but the thrust of article is correct that the Palace directors don't have the insight, experience and yes, vision, to lift and reinvent the club to sustain it in the PL and it is really starting to show

I don't think Parish will sell easily as he loves being in control. I am not sure who will buy if they can't be in control and would just be happy to let Parish spend their money - billionaires will want to have their own fun with the club

Not necessarily true, Arsenal have two billionaires on their board who don't interfere (or invest) not to mention Man City and United, and a few others.
Also read the Americans want out as they don't have relegation in American Football, and they didn't know we did, no idea if there is any truth in this

Edited by Midlands Eagle (02 Aug 2019 7.51am)

 

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Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

Also read the Americans want out as they don't have relegation in American Football, and they didn't know we did, no idea if there is any truth in this

I don't think that's true as people like them don't become billionaires by not doing proper due diligence.

It's equally possible that they want out as they aren't happy with the way that the club is run but who knows

 

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Didn’t the Americans invest shortly before there was a marked increase in revenue from TV rights ?

All this seems to have done is ramp up transfer / agents fees / wages etc. and now there’s a carve up going on with the plastic six taking more than the rest..

There’s any number of reasons they want to sell but either way their involvement has been a big disappointment in view of their purported wealth.

 

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intrgued to know what you count as succesful by quoting Sorloth and Reidewald, wouldn't consider them a success both massive flops, granted Reidewald has had injury problems

Originally posted by pssguy

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There is some credence to the article but our only outfield starter aged 30 or above is McArthur and our more successful signings recently have been players in mid-twenties, Luka, Andros etc. Sorloth, Riedewald and, to date, Meyer have not made a mark

McCarthy is just one of a many rumours.

Let's wait a week. Most of the action in a transfer window is in the last few days

 

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View stevo's Profile stevo Flag Reigate 02 Aug 19 10.02am Send a Private Message to stevo Add stevo as a friend

What? There is a full stop after etc.

Originally posted by sebo21

intrgued to know what you count as succesful by quoting Sorloth and Reidewald, wouldn't consider them a success both massive flops, granted Reidewald has had injury problems

 


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Great article that and sums things up perfectly. We gate crashed the party 6 or so years ago with our dilapidated infrastructure / academy / ground etc.

Gambling big and relying on Wilf is just not sustainable and inevitably it'll catch us out. Personally, I think we'll go down this season or next. We are just not an attractive enough proposition for serious investors and young talented players it seems. Sad but true. Also, I think DF is absolutely sh*te at his job ... like, really sh*te!

So going back to the party 'analogy' ... it's drawing towards the end of the night, you've run out of dough, realised you've got nowt in common with anyone there and not so much as had a sniff of female attention. So, it's time to go ...

 

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In my opinion there are a number of things that need to change in order for this club to move forward. The attitude of the majority of our fans needs to change for starters. Most of them are stuck in 2010 still bowing at the feet of Steve Parish and co for saving the club and are dreaming for the return of Steve Coppell and the 2012/2103 team of Peter Ramage, Damo and Jedi. SP is of course blameless in many peoples eyes and we should just be happy with what we have and anyone who dare questions our ambition is a plastic fraud who only started watching us 5 years should go and support Brighton. Apologies to the low end Nigels for having some ambition.

Steve Parish is another factor that needs to change or even better admit it is time for him to sell to someone with real financial clout that can actually bring us some real success. Parish has done a good enough job and improved our image and fortunes no end but since the 2016 cup final and the Pardew disaster we have not improved. Our overall infrastructure is abysmal. We are probably one of the worst run clubs in this divison. Parish surrounds himself with ninken poops and so called legends like Wright and Bright. They are not legends never have been nor will they ever be especially Wright. Don't get me started on Feedman , he should not be allowed back in South London let alone at this club. He is a Judas Snake and that's it.

Man city were in the gutter when a rich Sheikh swooped in and made them one of the best teams on the planet. Parish needs to give up control and clear the way for someone to help us do the same. However the majority of fans would still pine for Steve Coppell, Ramage , Damo and Jedi.

The whole club needs to shift not just Parish and Freedman.

 



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Originally posted by palacepolak

In my opinion there are a number of things that need to change in order for this club to move forward. The attitude of the majority of our fans needs to change for starters. Most of them are stuck in 2010 still bowing at the feet of Steve Parish and co for saving the club and are dreaming for the return of Steve Coppell and the 2012/2103 team of Peter Ramage, Damo and Jedi. SP is of course blameless in many peoples eyes and we should just be happy with what we have and anyone who dare questions our ambition is a plastic fraud who only started watching us 5 years should go and support Brighton. Apologies to the low end Nigels for having some ambition.

Steve Parish is another factor that needs to change or even better admit it is time for him to sell to someone with real financial clout that can actually bring us some real success. Parish has done a good enough job and improved our image and fortunes no end but since the 2016 cup final and the Pardew disaster we have not improved. Our overall infrastructure is abysmal. We are probably one of the worst run clubs in this divison. Parish surrounds himself with ninken poops and so called legends like Wright and Bright. They are not legends never have been nor will they ever be especially Wright. Don't get me started on Feedman , he should not be allowed back in South London let alone at this club. He is a Judas Snake and that's it.

Man city were in the gutter when a rich Sheikh swooped in and made them one of the best teams on the planet. Parish needs to give up control and clear the way for someone to help us do the same. However the majority of fans would still pine for Steve Coppell, Ramage , Damo and Jedi.

The whole club needs to shift not just Parish and Freedman.

You do realise Parish only has an 18% stake, so who would heavily invest for no control.

Wright doesn't work for the club.

Portsmouth weren't in the gutter, but they are now after a so called rich foreign investor put money in, then pulled the plug sending them spiralling down the leagues.

I am amazed at the number of people who demand change during our longest sustained stay in the top flight. Things aren't perfect, but are a damn sight better than they could be. Look at Bolton on the verge of extinction.

 

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Originally posted by palacepolak

In my opinion there are a number of things that need to change in order for this club to move forward. The attitude of the majority of our fans needs to change for starters. Most of them are stuck in 2010 still bowing at the feet of Steve Parish and co for saving the club and are dreaming for the return of Steve Coppell and the 2012/2103 team of Peter Ramage, Damo and Jedi. SP is of course blameless in many peoples eyes and we should just be happy with what we have and anyone who dare questions our ambition is a plastic fraud who only started watching us 5 years should go and support Brighton. Apologies to the low end Nigels for having some ambition.

Steve Parish is another factor that needs to change or even better admit it is time for him to sell to someone with real financial clout that can actually bring us some real success. Parish has done a good enough job and improved our image and fortunes no end but since the 2016 cup final and the Pardew disaster we have not improved. Our overall infrastructure is abysmal. We are probably one of the worst run clubs in this divison. Parish surrounds himself with ninken poops and so called legends like Wright and Bright. They are not legends never have been nor will they ever be especially Wright. Don't get me started on Feedman , he should not be allowed back in South London let alone at this club. He is a Judas Snake and that's it.

Man city were in the gutter when a rich Sheikh swooped in and made them one of the best teams on the planet. Parish needs to give up control and clear the way for someone to help us do the same. However the majority of fans would still pine for Steve Coppell, Ramage , Damo and Jedi.

The whole club needs to shift not just Parish and Freedman.

Did you see Ian Wright and Mark Brght play?

 

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Originally posted by Painter

You do realise Parish only has an 18% stake, so who would heavily invest for no control.

Wright doesn't work for the club.

Portsmouth weren't in the gutter, but they are now after a so called rich foreign investor put money in, then pulled the plug sending them spiralling down the leagues.

I am amazed at the number of people who demand change during our longest sustained stay in the top flight. Things aren't perfect, but are a damn sight better than they could be. Look at Bolton on the verge of extinction.

Parish is an absolute disaster as a Chairman/CEO of a premier league football club, he has no planning for the teams future development, he is a control freak, he has DOF who is a joke! we are now well into the last week of the transfer window with a weak squad, we have spent about 2mil so far on the team this window, we are now in SP panic zone when he will run around like a headless chicken looking to plug holes in our squad with so called bargain buy's, sometime with sick notes attached to their contracts. We need change right at the top if we are to progress any further in PL, otherwise as is it is back to the championship and probably even further down the league unless we have some change of direction!

 

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Originally posted by chris123

Did you see Ian Wright and Mark Brght play?

Yes I did and I also saw Ian Judas Wright celebrate against us when he scored for Arsenal to send us down. He is vermin and not a legend.

 



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Originally posted by Painter

You do realise Parish only has an 18% stake, so who would heavily invest for no control.

Wright doesn't work for the club.

Portsmouth weren't in the gutter, but they are now after a so called rich foreign investor put money in, then pulled the plug sending them spiralling down the leagues.

I am amazed at the number of people who demand change during our longest sustained stay in the top flight. Things aren't perfect, but are a damn sight better than they could be. Look at Bolton on the verge of extinction.

I agree it's amazing how short some peoples memories are - we are fortunate enough to be supporting Palace at the most successful time in the Club's history.

We are now going into our 7th consecutive season in the Premiership following a very comfortable 12th place finish and a Quarter Final in the FA Cup.

All that has happened in the interim is that we have sold AWB to Man U for £50M - so a player that has played just 42 games in the Prem..!!

That aside our squad is the same.

Meantime I was amazed to see today that Aston Villa are 5th highest spenders in Europe @ c.£133M for 17 players.!!

Fulham did a similar thing last year with a spend of over £100M and look what happened to them - finished second from bottom and were practically down by Xmas.

As frustrating as it is in this market at our level the key is continuity, prudence and maintenance of our position within our financial constraints.

Unless someone comes in to buy us with massive financial resources then this ain't going to change.

IMO - we will bring in probably 4 signings before the window closes including an adequate replacement for AWB and Wilf will stay.

So if this proves to be true we will be in a better position than we were last season and this all we could hope for - season on season progression.

Frustrating I know - but symptomatic of a club in our position, but it could be a lot worse..!!

COYP

 

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