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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 09 Aug 19 5.20pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by davehuggins

The Americans have a great deal to answer too, complete disaster IMO. No understanding of football in any shape or form, We need to sort the ownership issue asap and the redevelopment urgently.

You have zero evidence any of the poor recent mistakes are anything at all to do with two investors that leave PARISH to run the club.
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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 09 Aug 19 5.23pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

I know someone (I do business with)who knows Blitzer & Harris, by all accounts great businessmen but knew absolutely nothing about the workings of Football they had to be told the machinations of Promotion & Relegation when first dipping their toes into the CPFC waters.
The American sporting model is obviously different because know matter how bad the team is you own you don't have the financial worries of dropping down a division if you have a bad season

What a load of tripe.
There is no way a BILLIONAIRE would invest many millions in a Premiership football club without knowing it could be relegated. You BS is hilarious!

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 09 Aug 19 5.36pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

Overpriced Championship players in the main. I don't think they have strengthened that much and it will be a tough season for them again.

I hope.

...and even tougher for us!

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 09 Aug 19 5.40pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

I look at it this way.

If you set aside the fact that Parish is a part owner, is he doing a good job in his role of Chairman / CEO or whatever his title is ?

This transfer window looks like another attempt to paper over the cracks by signing players that are past their best. Once again key positions have been overlooked. By all means cash in one a right back for £50m but the attempts to replace him were either deliberately botched by pursuing unrealistic targets or just incompetent.

Parish appoints Freedman and I see little evidence that between them they know what they are doing in the transfer market.

I have given Parish the benefit of the doubt previously but I’m getting to the point where I’m starting to really lose confidence in him.

I don’t think we will go down this season but after our placing last season I think we will be looking more at the clubs below us than those above.

So much for his comment about having to run just to stand still

 


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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 09 Aug 19 5.46pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

I know someone (I do business with)who knows Blitzer & Harris, by all accounts great businessmen but knew absolutely nothing about the workings of Football they had to be told the machinations of Promotion & Relegation when first dipping their toes into the CPFC waters.
The American sporting model is obviously different because know matter how bad the team is you own you don't have the financial worries of dropping down a division if you have a bad season

And they were unaware of the problems Randy Lerner had at Villa? Can't believe it.

 

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View johnmcormick8's Profile johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 09 Aug 19 5.55pm Send a Private Message to johnmcormick8 Add johnmcormick8 as a friend

After longest period of time in the top league we approach the new season. Each year I have noticed a creeping Charlton Athetlec attitude. We are Palace a club that has been a ragmuffin yo-yo all my life I am now 60. Some of supporters believe we should be able to spend more buy better players yada yada yada, The owners want the club to be succssful but they know what we can afford, so they work within a budget. We will not buy success we are not Arsenal or any of the big clubs we are Palace are equals are Norwich,Southhampton etc. Please folks enjoy the rollercoaster ride. If you want success on a money plate try the top six sides.

Edited by johnmcormick8 (09 Aug 2019 5.57pm)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Aug 19 6.19pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by johnmcormick8

After longest period of time in the top league we approach the new season. Each year I have noticed a creeping Charlton Athetlec attitude. We are Palace a club that has been a ragmuffin yo-yo all my life I am now 60. Some of supporters believe we should be able to spend more buy better players yada yada yada, The owners want the club to be succssful but they know what we can afford, so they work within a budget. We will not buy success we are not Arsenal or any of the big clubs we are Palace are equals are Norwich,Southhampton etc. Please folks enjoy the rollercoaster ride. If you want success on a money plate try the top six sides.

Edited by johnmcormick8 (09 Aug 2019 5.57pm)

With respect I don't believe that supporters expect the club to buy success by spending lavish amounts.

They did however expect that having received £45 Mill for a full-back he would be replaced given our options at the club in this position.I think that they also hoped for a strengthening in the forward line given that Benteke,Wickham and Ayew scored 4 goals between them last season and that Batshuayi has returned to Chelsea.

Supporters are aware that we cannot match the spending of the majority of clubs in the PL but they hoped for a far better window given the deficiencies in the squad.

 

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View mileend's Profile mileend Flag East London 09 Aug 19 6.30pm Send a Private Message to mileend Add mileend as a friend

Originally posted by johnmcormick8

After longest period of time in the top league we approach the new season. Each year I have noticed a creeping Charlton Athetlec attitude. We are Palace a club that has been a ragmuffin yo-yo all my life I am now 60. Some of supporters believe we should be able to spend more buy better players yada yada yada, The owners want the club to be succssful but they know what we can afford, so they work within a budget. We will not buy success we are not Arsenal or any of the big clubs we are Palace are equals are Norwich,Southhampton etc. Please folks enjoy the rollercoaster ride. If you want success on a money plate try the top six sides.

Edited by johnmcormick8 (09 Aug 2019 5.57pm)

I don't agree with that all and have seen very little of that mentality which is built around complacency that your club has somehow cracked the premier league and should be in Europe.

What I am reading is anxiety over the chances of relegation due to not filling key positions and having to rely on a disenchanted top player to keep delivering the goods.

I see most supporters well aware we have been fortunate to survive in many of the seasons of this spell in the PL and although the late run of points has given us a bit of leeway by the end there is the knowledge that the margins are very fine and we are definitely one of the clubs at risk each season.

Having two right backs and two left backs - particularly when the current first choices are a bit suspect is not arrogant.

Wanting a striker that has a realistic chance of 10 goals a season is not unreasonable.

The majority would settle for 17th this year not demand 7th

(I changed aspire to demand - I am on uncertain ground - of course I'd like 7th but currently settle for survival )

Edited by mileend (09 Aug 2019 6.33pm)

Edited by mileend (09 Aug 2019 6.34pm)

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 09 Aug 19 6.48pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by johnmcormick8

After longest period of time in the top league we approach the new season. Each year I have noticed a creeping Charlton Athetlec attitude. We are Palace a club that has been a ragmuffin yo-yo all my life I am now 60. Some of supporters believe we should be able to spend more buy better players yada yada yada, The owners want the club to be succssful but they know what we can afford, so they work within a budget. We will not buy success we are not Arsenal or any of the big clubs we are Palace are equals are Norwich,Southhampton etc. Please folks enjoy the rollercoaster ride. If you want success on a money plate try the top six sides.

Edited by johnmcormick8 (09 Aug 2019 5.57pm)

The past is just that and it has gone, we should be more than capable of holding a mid table position in PL, we have good supporters and the club earnings from PL are enourmous. The Chairman and his Dof have to plan for the future by identifying weakness in the team whether that be playing ability, age , injury or just contracts coming to an end. The Dof (Freedman) should be capable of identifying prospects and then have the contacts and experience to be able to go after them as soon as the window is open rather than leaving it until the 11th hour. I see no reason with proper investors, a good chairman and Dof that we cannot survive in PL without spending the crazy money that the top six spread around. You only have to look at this recent window to see the likes of Watford, Brighton & others who have made good but modest investments in their teams for the future!

 

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View Dancer Cat's Profile Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 09 Aug 19 7.21pm Send a Private Message to Dancer Cat Add Dancer Cat as a friend

Originally posted by mileend

I don't agree with that all and have seen very little of that mentality which is built around complacency that your club has somehow cracked the premier league and should be in Europe.

What I am reading is anxiety over the chances of relegation due to not filling key positions and having to rely on a disenchanted top player to keep delivering the goods.

I see most supporters well aware we have been fortunate to survive in many of the seasons of this spell in the PL and although the late run of points has given us a bit of leeway by the end there is the knowledge that the margins are very fine and we are definitely one of the clubs at risk each season.

Having two right backs and two left backs - particularly when the current first choices are a bit suspect is not arrogant.

Wanting a striker that has a realistic chance of 10 goals a season is not unreasonable.

The majority would settle for 17th this year not demand 7th

(I changed aspire to demand - I am on uncertain ground - of course I'd like 7th but currently settle for survival )

Edited by mileend (09 Aug 2019 6.33pm)

Edited by mileend (09 Aug 2019 6.34pm)

Well said!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 09 Aug 19 7.37pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

What a load of tripe.
There is no way a BILLIONAIRE would invest many millions in a Premiership football club without knowing it could be relegated. You BS is hilarious!

Food for thought about a billion.
If you earnt £1 a second it would still take you over 31 years to become a billionaire.
How f***ed up is that.
Why would a few million actually be something the yanks are bothered about.
They want they're names and pictures so until we as a club are front and centre they will sit in the background.

 

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 09 Aug 19 10.27pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

having enjoyed Friday evening so far I am feeling a lot better and can see clearly now that Roy is going three at the back tomorrow. COYE

 

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