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Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Feb 20 4.02pm
Originally posted by Elpis I think Roy has done a fantastic job and for one Im absolutely delighted he has been offered and apparently accepted a further year at the helm . Parish is the best chairman this club has ever had and was buoyed with his words of encouragement on the way forward ,on the academy ,buying the car park and most importantly his stubborn refusal to ever let this marvellous football club to fall into debt . Well done to all the management at the club . (I still don't know what the purpose of involving the yanks was/is though) He hasn’t bought the car park, if you listen carefully. How good Parish is hinges on if the main stand is built or what shape we’re in if we get relegated because just spending every single penny of tv money on expensive ageing players isn’t brilliance. I sincerely hope he achieves from here on because a lot of the previous was correcting errors by throwing money about but not filling gaps early and playing kerplunk with the team. (No left back, right back, Dec mid, striker, take your pick. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 21 Feb 20 4.02pm

Originally posted by Elpis

I think Roy has done a fantastic job and for one Im absolutely delighted he has been offered and apparently accepted a further year at the helm .
Parish is the best chairman this club has ever had and was buoyed with his words of encouragement on the way forward ,on the academy ,buying the car park and most importantly his stubborn refusal to ever let this marvellous football club to fall into debt .

Well done to all the management at the club . (I still don't know what the purpose of involving the yanks was/is though)

He hasn’t bought the car park, if you listen carefully.

How good Parish is hinges on if the main stand is built or what shape we’re in if we get relegated because just spending every single penny of tv money on expensive ageing players isn’t brilliance.

I sincerely hope he achieves from here on because a lot of the previous was correcting errors by throwing money about but not filling gaps early and playing kerplunk with the team. (No left back, right back, Dec mid, striker, take your pick.

COYP

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scuffy orpington 21 Feb 20 5.04pm
It's never a good idea to hang on to dead wood, especially not when that dead wood costs 100k a week! Originally posted by susmik It was to secure a decent sell on if it happened. I did not agree with his extension either but realised there was a reason for their madness Rudi.
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orpington 21 Feb 20 5.04pm

It's never a good idea to hang on to dead wood, especially not when that dead wood costs 100k a week!

Originally posted by susmik

It was to secure a decent sell on if it happened.
I did not agree with his extension either but realised there was a reason for their madness Rudi.

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Dancer Cat Farnborough 21 Feb 20 5.07pm
Originally posted by Elpis I think Roy has done a fantastic job and for one Im absolutely delighted he has been offered and apparently accepted a further year at the helm . Parish is the best chairman this club has ever had and was buoyed with his words of encouragement on the way forward ,on the academy ,buying the car park and most importantly his stubborn refusal to ever let this marvellous football club to fall into debt . Well done to all the management at the club . (I still don't know what the purpose of involving the yanks was/is though) Have you seen our accounts & wage bill ? We get relegated, we are most definitelyin debt
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Dancer Cat

Farnborough 21 Feb 20 5.07pm

Originally posted by Elpis

I think Roy has done a fantastic job and for one Im absolutely delighted he has been offered and apparently accepted a further year at the helm .
Parish is the best chairman this club has ever had and was buoyed with his words of encouragement on the way forward ,on the academy ,buying the car park and most importantly his stubborn refusal to ever let this marvellous football club to fall into debt .

Well done to all the management at the club . (I still don't know what the purpose of involving the yanks was/is though)

Have you seen our accounts & wage bill ?

We get relegated, we are most definitelyin debt

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scuffy orpington 21 Feb 20 5.10pm
Agreed. Total cop out. There is no sign of a willingness by the current manager to put youngsters in the first team and there's also little sign that any of them are good enough yet. He's trying to suggest the squad deficiencies are part of a broader strategic plan to bring youngsters through which is totally untrue. It's also inconsistent with his previous assertion that we buy players to make up the numbers in training --- if there was truly a structured plan to give youngsters opportunities a select few would be training with the first team. Making it up as he goes along! Saying the fans are unrealistic also doesn't cut it considering he himself encouraged the fans to have more ambition in the early years of our Premier League run. Originally posted by Canterbury Palace Have always had plenty of time for Parish but I'm still not satisfied with his points regarding transfers. By and large we're hardly a greedy bunch and merely want the VERY obvious holes in the squad addressed, particularly those, such as a new striker, which haven't been fixed for a long time. The notion that we don't want to block the paths of youngsters to the first team is a complete cop out excuse as well. Between that, suggesting the fans are unrealistic and lamenting the transfer climate it feels as though he is absolving the club of all responsibility for recent transfer failings. I genuinely have no desire to spunk tens of millions on expensive, glamour players as it's proven to be likely to fail. In fact I was as excited about getting Ferguson and Bowen from the Championship as I have been about any other recent transfers. However, we can all see on a weekly basis that this is an aging, injury prone squad that is running out of ideas and I don't think it's too much to ask for there to be a bit of investment here and there to help that. If we do stay up this summer, new faces are absolutely vital because we won't survive another campaign like this.
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orpington 21 Feb 20 5.10pm

Agreed. Total cop out. There is no sign of a willingness by the current manager to put youngsters in the first team and there's also little sign that any of them are good enough yet. He's trying to suggest the squad deficiencies are part of a broader strategic plan to bring youngsters through which is totally untrue. It's also inconsistent with his previous assertion that we buy players to make up the numbers in training --- if there was truly a structured plan to give youngsters opportunities a select few would be training with the first team. Making it up as he goes along!

Saying the fans are unrealistic also doesn't cut it considering he himself encouraged the fans to have more ambition in the early years of our Premier League run.

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Have always had plenty of time for Parish but I'm still not satisfied with his points regarding transfers.

By and large we're hardly a greedy bunch and merely want the VERY obvious holes in the squad addressed, particularly those, such as a new striker, which haven't been fixed for a long time.

The notion that we don't want to block the paths of youngsters to the first team is a complete cop out excuse as well. Between that, suggesting the fans are unrealistic and lamenting the transfer climate it feels as though he is absolving the club of all responsibility for recent transfer failings.

I genuinely have no desire to spunk tens of millions on expensive, glamour players as it's proven to be likely to fail. In fact I was as excited about getting Ferguson and Bowen from the Championship as I have been about any other recent transfers.

However, we can all see on a weekly basis that this is an aging, injury prone squad that is running out of ideas and I don't think it's too much to ask for there to be a bit of investment here and there to help that. If we do stay up this summer, new faces are absolutely vital because we won't survive another campaign like this.

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Dancer Cat Farnborough 21 Feb 20 5.11pm
Originally posted by Willo Perhaps the extension is on the proviso that we are not relegated, hence it has not been signed. If indeed we survive, this will be the third season that Hodgson has secured survival with limited outlay in the transfer market,accordingly one can understand the club wanting to retain his services in these circumstances. I agree with this, BUT, I hope Roy doesn't sign an extension "just for sake of it &/or money". His & the club's summer vision & plan for the final year of inflated wage / old squad hell need to be totally in sync.
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Farnborough 21 Feb 20 5.11pm

Originally posted by Willo

Perhaps the extension is on the proviso that we are not relegated, hence it has not been signed.

If indeed we survive, this will be the third season that Hodgson has secured survival with limited outlay in the transfer market,accordingly one can understand the club wanting to retain his services in these circumstances.

I agree with this, BUT, I hope Roy doesn't sign an extension "just for sake of it &/or money". His & the club's summer vision & plan for the final year of inflated wage / old squad hell need to be totally in sync.

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scuffy orpington 21 Feb 20 5.12pm
Good post. 100% right. Originally posted by Nicholas91 No you strategically plan for the talent you need to acquire, identify plausible solutions and then take action when appropriate (transfer window). I don't think many fans are asking him to splash cash, but we sold a rb for £50mil and never replaced him, we've needed a rb, lb and striker for a few years now and we only have two wingers. The case for not 'splashing the cash on players just to appease the fans" is both ludicrous and derogatory IMO as is the case to say there was only ever one available option to us which unfortunately didn't work out because of a knock to the player.
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orpington 21 Feb 20 5.12pm

Good post. 100% right.

Originally posted by Nicholas91

No you strategically plan for the talent you need to acquire, identify plausible solutions and then take action when appropriate (transfer window).

I don't think many fans are asking him to splash cash, but we sold a rb for £50mil and never replaced him, we've needed a rb, lb and striker for a few years now and we only have two wingers.

The case for not 'splashing the cash on players just to appease the fans" is both ludicrous and derogatory IMO as is the case to say there was only ever one available option to us which unfortunately didn't work out because of a knock to the player.

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scuffy orpington 21 Feb 20 5.15pm
Great point. Ludicrous decision. Despite the comments by Roy today, I would be astounded if any contract extension was signed before we have secured our safety. That said, I was astounded when Benteke's was extended so who knows? Originally posted by Dancer Cat Let's splash the cash - £5.2M of it. - on offering a year's extension for Benteke instead then. Looks like he's offering RH an extension before we've guaranteed our survival for next year - so that's the Pardew lesson well & truly learned then
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orpington 21 Feb 20 5.15pm

Great point. Ludicrous decision.

Despite the comments by Roy today, I would be astounded if any contract extension was signed before we have secured our safety. That said, I was astounded when Benteke's was extended so who knows?

Originally posted by Dancer Cat

Let's splash the cash - £5.2M of it. - on offering a year's extension for Benteke instead then.

Looks like he's offering RH an extension before we've guaranteed our survival for next year - so that's the Pardew lesson well & truly learned then

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scuffy orpington 21 Feb 20 5.21pm
That's the problem with "in-house" interviews -- the difficult decisions don't get asked! Originally posted by stevo Would have liked to hear about the current relationship with the Americans and how it's all working out with our major shareholders?
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orpington 21 Feb 20 5.21pm

That's the problem with "in-house" interviews -- the difficult decisions don't get asked!

Originally posted by stevo

Would have liked to hear about the current relationship with the Americans and how it's all working out with our major shareholders?

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 21 Feb 20 6.08pm
I challenge anyone to show me a reputable source of information reporting that Benteke's extension was at $100k a week. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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I challenge anyone to show me a reputable source of information reporting that Benteke's extension was at $100k a week.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 21 Feb 20 6.15pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig I challenge anyone to show me a reputable source of information reporting that Benteke's extension was at 0k a week. 100k dollars a week will be a slight reduction. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 21 Feb 20 6.15pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I challenge anyone to show me a reputable source of information reporting that Benteke's extension was at 0k a week.

100k dollars a week will be a slight reduction.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Feb 20 6.48pm
So what are we posters currently moaning about? SP has at least appeared before the cameras and said things. He had little to report presumably because little has happened. However, 1. SP did say that contractors have been appointed for some of the work on the Academy so presumably he is expecting that to go ahead. 2. SP confirmed we had gone for two young players during the last window but injuries put the kibosh on those, but at least it shows an intent to bring in younger players and I think we should accept that the intention in the summer will be to bring in younger players 3. SP affirmed that the new stand is a key part to the club having a successful future. in other words, he wants it to happen. We all want to see developments but I suspect we will have to wait until the summer before anything concrete can happen. Whether it will, of course, remains to be seen.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Feb 20 6.48pm

So what are we posters currently moaning about?
SP has at least appeared before the cameras and said things.
He had little to report presumably because little has happened. However,
1. SP did say that contractors have been appointed for some of the work on the Academy so presumably he is expecting that to go ahead.
2. SP confirmed we had gone for two young players during the last window but injuries put the kibosh on those, but at least it shows an intent to bring in younger players and I think we should accept that the intention in the summer will be to bring in younger players
3. SP affirmed that the new stand is a key part to the club having a successful future. in other words, he wants it to happen.
We all want to see developments but I suspect we will have to wait until the summer before anything concrete can happen. Whether it will, of course, remains to be seen.

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Gribbo Bromley 21 Feb 20 7.26pm
Evening Standard reporting that Roy will sign a new contract..... Hooray, bring on the season ticket sales.
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Gribbo

Bromley 21 Feb 20 7.26pm

Evening Standard reporting that Roy will sign a new contract.....

Hooray, bring on the season ticket sales.

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