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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 20 Jul 19 7.45am

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

.... and embarrass ourselves further with our meagre resources? We already have Europe splitting their sides laughing at us so let's not spread the pi$$ taking further afield.

We have no leadership, no credible foreign policy nor the means or will to back anything up.

Welcome to Britain in the 21st century!

Are you high?

Our boys would mop the floor with their couple of trawlers and a biplane.

If you can't handle the fact that we've got the best navy in the world that's your problem. f*** the others too, who cares whether they're laughing or not? France is an overun dump now, basically the third world and Germany is in recession. That's as good as that continent gets! Our charity keeps the rest just above savages and they know it.

Rule Britannia and God save the Queen. Don't like it, go and live in Europe. Romania perhaps?

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 20 Jul 19 7.56am

Originally posted by Jimenez

We may no longer be Kings of the high seas, but one of our modern aircraft carriers would easily be able to send Iran back to the stone ages.
With that clown they've recently 'elected' as EU president or whatever her title is the German Army recently had to use broom stick handles as guns because they couldn't afford rifles.

Agree

The German army is in such bad nick they cannot deploy if it kicks off, they'd be f***ed if Russia turned it on.

As for back to the stone age? That would be a step up. Their parliament consists of tribesmen burning flags and doing that horrible wailing.

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 20 Jul 19 9.31am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Are you high?

Our boys would mop the floor with their couple of trawlers and a biplane.

If you can't handle the fact that we've got the best navy in the world that's your problem. f*** the others too, who cares whether they're laughing or not? France is an overun dump now, basically the third world and Germany is in recession. That's as good as that continent gets! Our charity keeps the rest just above savages and they know it.

Rule Britannia and God save the Queen. Don't like it, go and live in Europe. Romania perhaps?

Another one jumping to conclusions ... hell what a bunch we are! We could simply solve a situation with limited naval resources by going into a coalition with the Americans who have plenty in the area. However, what do we do? Theresa May who is questionably the worst PM we've ever had sits down with the French and Germans to issue a statement criticising the US. Both those EU countries have huge interests in Iran they want to safeguard. I am certainly not pro European but I have no desire to reopen another argument. I stand by my original comments about ineffective leadership, confused foreign policy and limited military. The latter is knowingly underesourced at all levels along with every other public service in the UK whilst we contine to waste millions/billions on nonsense including prevaricating on Brexit.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 20 Jul 19 9.39am

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

Another one jumping to conclusions ... hell what a bunch we are! We could simply solve a situation with limited naval resources by going into a coalition with the Americans who have plenty in the area. However, what do we do? Theresa May who is questionably the worst PM we've ever had sits down with the French and Germans to issue a statement criticising the US. Both those EU countries have huge interests in Iran they want to safeguard. I am certainly not pro European but I have no desire to reopen another argument. I stand by my original comments about ineffective leadership, confused foreign policy and limited military. The latter is knowingly underesourced at all levels along with every other public service in the UK whilst we contine to waste millions/billions on nonsense including prevaricating on Brexit.

Agree about the leadership. Weak and pathetic.

I hope to God it's not Hunt up next. I saw him on the news today looking bewildered, yammering on about a diplomatic solution. Wasn't even wearing a tie.

He should've demanded the ship be released immediately and dispatched the navy.

 

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jeeagles Flag 20 Jul 19 9.43am

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Agree

The German army is in such bad nick they cannot deploy if it kicks off, they'd be f***ed if Russia turned it on.

As for back to the stone age? That would be a step up. Their parliament consists of tribesmen burning flags and doing that horrible wailing.

When the entire squadron of F35Bs arrive and HSM Price of Wales come into service the UK will have the second strongest Navy in the world.

In terms of military strength we are joint strongest in Europe with France.

The German armed forces are pretty useless having only been used in combat once since the war and largely limited to peace keeping duties.

We are the only nation ever to use nuclear class submarines in anger and this could certainly be an option.

One Type 45 destroyer has the fire power to take out the entire Argentine airforce which is why they got upset when we sent one little boat to the Falklands a few years back.

These appear to be desperate acts by Iran who are already suffering from sanctions.

Interestingly a Russian national has been captured on the boat. There arent many places for them to turn to for support.

I cant see a good outcome for Iran.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 20 Jul 19 10.16am

Originally posted by jeeagles

When the entire squadron of F35Bs arrive and HSM Price of Wales come into service the UK will have the second strongest Navy in the world.

In terms of military strength we are joint strongest in Europe with France.

The German armed forces are pretty useless having only been used in combat once since the war and largely limited to peace keeping duties.

We are the only nation ever to use nuclear class submarines in anger and this could certainly be an option.

One Type 45 destroyer has the fire power to take out the entire Argentine airforce which is why they got upset when we sent one little boat to the Falklands a few years back.

These appear to be desperate acts by Iran who are already suffering from sanctions.

Interestingly a Russian national has been captured on the boat. There arent many places for them to turn to for support.

I cant see a good outcome for Iran.

Great post.

Equal to France though? Let's take the history of surrender into account and say it how it is: we're the best.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 20 Jul 19 10.49am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

It's really only the Strait of Hormuz that needs patrolling, the rest of the Gulf can be navigated without going near Iran.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Jul 19 11.08am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Just do a deal with the tankers and stop the sabre rattling. Iran is one of those countries with millions of nutcases that would be about twenty times worse than Iraq. And that has gone well.
Shame we can't get the Shah or Saddam to keep them in check.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 20 Jul 19 12.10pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Just do a deal with the tankers and stop the sabre rattling. Iran is one of those countries with millions of nutcases that would be about twenty times worse than Iraq. And that has gone well.
Shame we can't get the Shah or Saddam to keep them in check.

Disagree strongly. Press the button, f*** them. About time that tinder keg went up.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Jul 19 12.20pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Disagree strongly. Press the button, f*** them. About time that tinder keg went up.

I would love it if Britain were a serious threat to Iran but we're not. Years of cuts have ensured that. We will have to do a deal. What else: air strikes?
They will shoot down plenty of planed with SAMs for a start. Then if anything is done they'll wheel out twenty dead women and kids and call for a jihad.
Then there will be all the UK based fanatics too. The ones who came in pretending to be Syrian after throwing away passports and the like.
Make threats and step up a presence, yes. But ultimately a deal will be done relatively quickly and calmly.
Both sides need to work out how to save face. Any military action would have to be with the US and I'm not sure they want this - or we do either.
Another consideration is why exactly did we seize a tanker but leave our own exposed? Typical incompetence. Although who knows how much the US are involved.
As for any actual European help, forget it.

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Edited by ASCPFC (20 Jul 2019 12.22pm)

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 20 Jul 19 12.28pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I would love it if Britain were a serious threat to Iran but we're not. Years of cuts have ensured that. We will have to do a deal. What else: air strikes?
They will shoot down plenty of planed with SAMs for a start. Then if anything is done they'll wheel out twenty dead women and kids and call for a jihad.
Then there will be all the UK based fanatics too. The ones who came in pretending to be Syrian after throwing away passports and the like.
Make threats and step up a presence, yes. But ultimately a deal will be done relatively quickly and calmly.
Both sides need to work out how to save face. Any military action would have to be with the US and I'm not sure they want this - or we do either.
Another consideration is why exactly did we seize a tanker but leave our own exposed? Typical incompetence. Although who knows how much the US are involved.
As for any actual European help, forget it.

Edited by ASCPFC (20 Jul 2019 12.21pm)

Edited by ASCPFC (20 Jul 2019 12.22pm)

I think this is probably an accurate prediction, but I don't agree it's the way to handle it.

Pay them off and you've basically legitimised piracy and it's open season.

Personally, we need a great big sort out and I think we should respond with aggression. Sink their fleet and air strike their ports, f*** em. If it kicks off over here, good. Reveal the enemy within once and for all and make the government deport/imprison people. If we get Syria mark 2, good. The US and Isreal are itching to wipe half the middle East off the planet, let them get on with it.

 

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Originally posted by ChrisGC

I think this is probably an accurate prediction, but I don't agree it's the way to handle it.

Pay them off and you've basically legitimised piracy and it's open season.

Personally, we need a great big sort out and I think we should respond with aggression. Sink their fleet and air strike their ports, f*** em. If it kicks off over here, good. Reveal the enemy within once and for all and make the government deport/imprison people. If we get Syria mark 2, good. The US and Isreal are itching to wipe half the middle East off the planet, let them get on with it.

The only military option that would be feasible would be to launch a covert raid with special forces. Seems like any casualties on either side would need deniability - unless it actually worked. Would make for some good footage though.

 


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