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View billtheglazier's Profile billtheglazier Flag twickenham 26 Jul 19 5.51pm Send a Private Message to billtheglazier Add billtheglazier as a friend

Many professions require honesty and trust from their employees. However it might be argued that manipulation and dishonesty seems to be often prevalent amongst the profession of football agents.
Simon Jorden, I believe, often refused to deal with agents as did Alex Ferguson on many occasions.
I have heard agents described as a cancer in the modern gameby many fans.
In these days of dishonest politicians who use the term 'Fake news' regularly to manipulate their arguments,it does at times, seem to me, that the profession of agents frequently spreads rumours etc often in their own interests i.e greed, thus disrupting psychologically, the players and teams they represent.I do wonder how much of this is going on at the moment around Wilf?
I apologise if this has been discussed elsewhere on this forum.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 26 Jul 19 6.01pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Agents exist because there is so much money in the game & many footballers lack the education/skills/experience to negotiate effectively with clubs, or to ensure they maximise their earnings potential.

The world of agents is a jungle. Know the laws of the jungle and exploit them to your advantage. That is the real game.

 


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View Crystal_Clear's Profile Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 26 Jul 19 7.20pm Send a Private Message to Crystal_Clear Add Crystal_Clear as a friend

Agents are the worst thing in football.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Jul 19 8.58pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

Agents are the worst thing in football.

The money is probably the worst thing, then Sky Sports and then Man U. So agents are about the fourth worst thing in football. I would put Brighton on the list but they are neither football nor significant.

 


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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 26 Jul 19 9.31pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Should be properly regulated but it wont because it's corrupt like most sports are.

this is one thing I really like about the US system it shows all costs they don't hide it which is how it should be.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Jul 19 9.49pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

The Wolves situation seems a little ridiculous. Also isn't that 'super' agent Riola or whatever banned, yet still represents all of the big names?
Just seems silly sometimes. I guess it's a hard area to legislate for as players are bound to be entitled to representation.
Somewhere above, someone mentioned Alex Ferguson, didn't he make everyone use his son? No corruption there.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 26 Jul 19 10.58pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Agents exist because there is so much money in the game & many footballers lack the education/skills/experience to negotiate effectively with clubs, or to ensure they maximise their earnings potential.

The world of agents is a jungle. Know the laws of the jungle and exploit them to your advantage. That is the real game.

So much for their Players 'Union' then !!

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 Jul 19 8.09am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

There are agents everywhere.
Travel,estate etc.
A middle man or woman to negotiate with to get the end product you want.
In football the dough involved is eye watering.
Imagine a player tried to negotiate on his own ; he could end up in a real pickle with the small print.
I know way back Simon Jordan told Cahill's agent to foxtrot oscar when he came back last minute for extra dough.
I think we got relegated because of that non signing but SJ explained why he did it.
Cahill went to Everton.
It's a bit of a rock and a hard place really.
Player protection over agents demands and payments.
Not good in totality but a necessary evil.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Jul 19 8.22am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Agents exist because there is so much money in the game & many footballers lack the education/skills/experience to negotiate effectively with clubs, or to ensure they maximise their earnings potential.

The world of agents is a jungle. Know the laws of the jungle and exploit them to your advantage. That is the real game.

Having met a few agents down the years, I can assure you that some are no more educated than the players they represent.

 


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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 27 Jul 19 8.34am Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

I don't really get the whole perception of agents being toxic, despicable people.

The world is full of manipulation and lies. Every advert, social media post etc made by a company is heavily researched and designed to manipulate the viewer into doing things. Anyone who has ever worked in Sales has pulled the same dishonest acts as an agent.

As fans we want our players to be dedicated to our club and love it as much as we do but we don't hold ourselves to the same standards in our own lives when it comes to our jobs and will happily speak to recruitment companies to find us the best roles with the best pay without a second thought to our employer.

I've worked in sales as everything from new business to account management and channel. The stuff I've seen people do to get a deal makes agents look like angels. Nothing wrong with anyone trying to make the most of what they do and get the most money for themselves and their clients. It's not their fault if the clubs cave in so easily and allow them to do it.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 27 Jul 19 8.39am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


According to Talksport from 1.2.18 to 31.1.19 Palace paid agents £6,976,425. Some way behind Liverppol who coughed up £43,795,863. In total Premier League clubs paid agents £263,664,118.
Why don’t players pay their own agents?

 

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View stuckinbristol's Profile stuckinbristol Flag In the woodwork. 27 Jul 19 9.05am Send a Private Message to stuckinbristol Add stuckinbristol as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


According to Talksport from 1.2.18 to 31.1.19 Palace paid agents £6,976,425. Some way behind Liverppol who coughed up £43,795,863. In total Premier League clubs paid agents £263,664,118.
Why don’t players pay their own agents?

Exactly this.
If I was buying a house and the estate agent came to me, after an agreement to buy was sorted, and asked me for £xxx for themselves to allow me to buy I would tell them to do one.

 

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