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deleted user Flag 19 Aug 19 9.48pm

Originally posted by Goal Machine

It will not work well in its current format and it won't be long until fans have had enough.

The introduction was to prevent 'clear and obvious' errors, such as the Henry handball against Ireland and the Freddie Sears phantom goal, which in fairness don't happen too often, as fouls and handballs are usually subjective. Goal line technology is great as there is no grey area.

For the rare occasion there is a 'clear and obvious' error, a VAR system would be effective with a review system - 1 per review per captain per game.

The saddest part is that we will reach a point where we can't celebrate the goal because we're waiting for a confirmation 10 seconds later, by which point the moment of euphoria has passed.

People can live with minor refereeing errors, they tend to even themselves out over a course of a season anyway. I don't buy into the nonsense that bigger clubs get preferential treatment.

From what I've seen so far, there have been some horrendous refereeing decisions going against what everyone else can see - e.g. the handball decision given against PSG last season against United.

It works better in other sports due to the stop/start nature. Checking every goal/penalty decision is killing it for the fans.

100%. It's an undeniably useful technology that is going to be seriously overused, and may well upend the season in one way or another.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 19 Aug 19 10.10pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

100%. It's an undeniably useful technology that is going to be seriously overused, and may well upend the season in one way or another.

Upend football

 

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deleted user Flag 19 Aug 19 10.18pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Upend football

I doubt you're far wrong. I think they'll make serious changes to it at the end of the season though, but it will have made a farce of things in the interim.

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 20 Aug 19 11.28am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Maybe it is their way of getting us to appreciate the ref and assistant refs more.

 


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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 20 Aug 19 1.31pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I have to say that I am a bit uncomfortable with the offside aspect of VAR whereby one can be given offside by the length of a toe.

In cricket, if an umpire in a LBW situation gives 'Not out' because he believes the ball is missing the stumps but technology reveals it would have just brushed the stumps, the 'Not out' stands'. I think that over half the ball needs to touch the stumps for the decision to be overturned.

Perhaps there should be a similar stance with VAR under the umbrella of a 'Clear and obvious error'.It cannot be a 'clear and obvious error' if the assistant deems a player is onside and it is revealed that he was offside by a hair's breadth.

Edited by Willo (13 Aug 2019 11.07am)

I was going to suggest this too.

Taking the alleged 13cm flaw as an example, if the offside decision is within this distance (or maybe half that - as it could be 6.5cm either way) the decision of the Linesman stands.


 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 25 Aug 19 9.15pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

VAR seems to be getting most things correct.
Although morally some seem wrong (man city v spurs)
The laws are being upheld.
It's funny to see the whinging when the biguns dont get decisions (kane) but enjoy it when it's their benefit. See above.
Maybe we will see a different table come next may!

 

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View Superhorns3's Profile Superhorns3 Flag Harpdenden 26 Aug 19 11.25am Send a Private Message to Superhorns3 Add Superhorns3 as a friend

Spurs fans were lucky last week - they might feel hard done by this week .

Now they know how we all feels at times !

 

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 26 Aug 19 4.32pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

VAR seems to be getting most things correct.
Although morally some seem wrong (man city v spurs)
The laws are being upheld.

At the moment though the euphoria and enjoyment of the game is being ruined by these VAR reviews when a goal is scored. That might be mildly tolerable if VAR eradicated ALL the wrong decisions but it just doesn’t get close.

We know now that VAR has a margin of error of 13cm which is just laughable, bearing in mind it was adjudicating on two decisions (in the WHUFC v MCFC) of much smaller margins (2.4cm for one) and getting them BOTH wrong!

They are also not being used in purely ‘Clear & Obvious’ scenarios and it is making the game too sterile.

Add in the subjectivity of some of the penalty decisions awarded and not awarded and it is becoming a joke and in no way does it eradicate the ‘injustices’ they said it would.

The natural pauses in play in both Cricket and Rugby allow the technology to be used correctly but in football there needs to be some wholesale and speedy re-thinking of it before it ruins the enjoyment and excitement of the game.


Edited by Phil’s Barber (26 Aug 2019 4.34pm)

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Aug 19 4.47pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

because all the players everywhere are diving all the time, i support VAR.

the lesser of two weevils

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Aug 19 6.00pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Superhorns3

Spurs fans were lucky last week - they might feel hard done by this week .

Now they know how we all feels at times !

Agreed. The refs have obviously taken it upon themselves to accept no responsibility for decisions.....think I may like it

 

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