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Teddy Eagle Online 10 Sep 19 8.06pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle He never stated his position on Brexit. All he did was allow Parliament to state theirs. His position on Trump was to reflect what he believed are the standards of decency and democratic process held by Parliament and state what is a fact. That addressing Parliament is not a right, it is an honour bestowed by Parliament to those they choose. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (10 Sep 2019 7.48pm) Do you have the same opinion of anyone in the business world taking unilateral decisions which affect their employers finances?
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10 Sep 19 8.06pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He never stated his position on Brexit. All he did was allow Parliament to state theirs.

His position on Trump was to reflect what he believed are the standards of decency and democratic process held by Parliament and state what is a fact. That addressing Parliament is not a right, it is an honour bestowed by Parliament to those they choose.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (10 Sep 2019 7.48pm)

Do you have the same opinion of anyone in the business world taking unilateral decisions which affect their employers finances?

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 10 Sep 19 8.16pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Of course not. I am not defending bullying. Which Bercow has denied by the way, so we ought not judge him on that score just yet. I am putting that in the context of his bigger contribution to the functioning of our democracy. err dont most people accused of something deny it? Murderers, rapists, bank robbers etc It just seems that you will always take the opposite view to most others on here, you would say black was white just to be contrary, so on that basis Im done with trying to argue with your myopic views
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The garden of England.(not really) 10 Sep 19 8.16pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course not. I am not defending bullying. Which Bercow has denied by the way, so we ought not judge him on that score just yet. I am putting that in the context of his bigger contribution to the functioning of our democracy.

err dont most people accused of something deny it? Murderers, rapists, bank robbers etc
It just seems that you will always take the opposite view to most others on here, you would say black was white just to be contrary, so on that basis Im done with trying to argue with your myopic views

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cryrst The garden of England 10 Sep 19 8.40pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Good for you, will you be selling it as a Board game? I did my teaching at Thomas Bennett and then at Ashburton. Some on here will have been to those august institutions. Trashburton Mate I was there between 78-83. Studying not teaching. Great school back then. I would've shagged mrs wren. Anyhow 3 years later it went to s*** and was bottom of the tables. I was actually there when the wrowntree festival add was made. We had to hold up a coloured card on a big scaffolding in the field. Strange how I cant remember yesterday but 30 odd years ago no problems. Is that normal?
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The garden of England 10 Sep 19 8.40pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Good for you, will you be selling it as a Board game?

I did my teaching at Thomas Bennett and then at Ashburton. Some on here will have been to those august institutions.

Trashburton
Mate I was there between 78-83.
Studying not teaching.
Great school back then.
I would've shagged mrs wren.
Anyhow 3 years later it went to s*** and was bottom of the tables.
I was actually there when the wrowntree festival add was made.
We had to hold up a coloured card on a big scaffolding in the field.
Strange how I cant remember yesterday but 30 odd years ago no problems.
Is that normal?

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Spiderman Horsham 10 Sep 19 9.00pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I suspect that in a few years time many of Bercow's current critics will be giving him great thanks for so stoutly defending the rights of Parliament against the Government. If and when we have a left leaning Labour government attempting to usurp Parliamentary democracy the principles established by Bercow will serve us well. He most certainly is biased. But he is biased in exactly the way a Speaker should be biased. He favours the rights of MPs, and Parliament as a whole, over the executive. As it is the established principle of the UK system that the executive only govern with the permission of Parliament, who are themselves empowered by the people, this is exactly what the Speaker's duty is. Bercow has done it extremely well. He is a hero who deserves, and I hope eventually gets, a statue outside of the Palace of Westminster. The timing, both of his intended departure and the announcement of it, was exquisite. It seemingly gives the current rabble in government no room to avoid a new Speaker who will follow a similar, if not identical, path to Bercow. Well done that man. It was highly instructive that at the end of his speech yesterday the whole of the House rose to give him, a Conservative MP, a standing ovation. All that is except the Conservatives. What have the Tories come to that they cannot recognise the really long term importance of the stand that he has made. Of course he has been criticised for his hectoring manner and accused of bullying his staff by opponents upset at his impact. None of that matters when the long view in taken. Bercow is someone whose place in history beckons and maybe in time more will understand why. Over the years I have read some b**cks on here but this takes the biscuit. The role of the speaker should be an unbiased position, as have all those previously shown. He will go down in history as the most hated speaker, given a standing ovation by the SNP and Lib Dims tells everything really. By the way look how many Tories were left in the chamber, as they presumably couldn't bear listening to the Scottish p*. What do you think of the childish behaviour by Labour MPs, behaviour that seemed to be condoned by the Speaker. Wonder what he would have done if it had been Brexiteers
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Horsham 10 Sep 19 9.00pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I suspect that in a few years time many of Bercow's current critics will be giving him great thanks for so stoutly defending the rights of Parliament against the Government. If and when we have a left leaning Labour government attempting to usurp Parliamentary democracy the principles established by Bercow will serve us well.

He most certainly is biased. But he is biased in exactly the way a Speaker should be biased. He favours the rights of MPs, and Parliament as a whole, over the executive. As it is the established principle of the UK system that the executive only govern with the permission of Parliament, who are themselves empowered by the people, this is exactly what the Speaker's duty is. Bercow has done it extremely well. He is a hero who deserves, and I hope eventually gets, a statue outside of the Palace of Westminster.

The timing, both of his intended departure and the announcement of it, was exquisite. It seemingly gives the current rabble in government no room to avoid a new Speaker who will follow a similar, if not identical, path to Bercow. Well done that man.

It was highly instructive that at the end of his speech yesterday the whole of the House rose to give him, a Conservative MP, a standing ovation. All that is except the Conservatives.

What have the Tories come to that they cannot recognise the really long term importance of the stand that he has made.

Of course he has been criticised for his hectoring manner and accused of bullying his staff by opponents upset at his impact.

None of that matters when the long view in taken. Bercow is someone whose place in history beckons and maybe in time more will understand why.

Over the years I have read some b****cks on here but this takes the biscuit.
The role of the speaker should be an unbiased position, as have all those previously shown. He will go down in history as the most hated speaker, given a standing ovation by the SNP and Lib Dims tells everything really. By the way look how many Tories were left in the chamber, as they presumably couldn't bear listening to the Scottish p***.
What do you think of the childish behaviour by Labour MPs, behaviour that seemed to be condoned by the Speaker. Wonder what he would have done if it had been Brexiteers

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Spiderman Horsham 10 Sep 19 9.03pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Why would I? I don't visit other sites. I have told you before but you never listen. I post here because the people here are in much greater need of education. I used to teach social studies you know. Edited by Mapletree (10 Sep 2019 1.24pm) Typical remainer. Another string to your bow?
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Horsham 10 Sep 19 9.03pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Why would I? I don't visit other sites.

I have told you before but you never listen. I post here because the people here are in much greater need of education. I used to teach social studies you know.

Edited by Mapletree (10 Sep 2019 1.24pm)

Typical remainer. Another string to your bow?

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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 10 Sep 19 9.08pm
Originally posted by cryrst Trashburton Mate I was there between 78-83. Studying not teaching. Great school back then. I would've shagged mrs wren. Anyhow 3 years later it went to s*** and was bottom of the tables. I was actually there when the wrowntree festival add was made. We had to hold up a coloured card on a big scaffolding in the field. Strange how I cant remember yesterday but 30 odd years ago no problems. Is that normal? Yep. Sorry, what was the question again?
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Originally posted by cryrst

Yep. Sorry, what was the question again?

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cryrst The garden of England 10 Sep 19 9.45pm
Originally posted by palace_in_frogland Yep. Sorry, what was the question again? Do you see what a struggle it is. Sorry what was that you asked
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The garden of England 10 Sep 19 9.45pm

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

Yep. Sorry, what was the question again?

Do you see what a struggle it is.
Sorry what was that you asked

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Mapletree Croydon 10 Sep 19 10.45pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Typical remainer. Another string to your bow? Because I want to help my community presumably
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Croydon 10 Sep 19 10.45pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Typical remainer. Another string to your bow?

Because I want to help my community presumably

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Mapletree Croydon 10 Sep 19 10.49pm
Originally posted by cryrst Trashburton Mate I was there between 78-83. Studying not teaching. Great school back then. I would've shagged mrs wren. Anyhow 3 years later it went to s*** and was bottom of the tables. I was actually there when the wrowntree festival add was made. We had to hold up a coloured card on a big scaffolding in the field. Strange how I cant remember yesterday but 30 odd years ago no problems. Is that normal? Then we overlapped. I can remember absolutely nothing and nobody from my time there.
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Mapletree

Croydon 10 Sep 19 10.49pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Then we overlapped. I can remember absolutely nothing and nobody from my time there.

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Sep 19 5.35pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Then we overlapped. I can remember absolutely nothing and nobody from my time there. I bet you have that problem a lot because most of your life is made up.
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