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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 May 20 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Very interesting comment, I had never really thought of it that way. Any reasonable and helpful modernisation won't be done, but the modernisation will always be more progressive thought on behalf of everyone, imposed by decree. So don't change anything structurally for the better, rather, let's change society (thought) for the (supposed better) acceptance of all, so we can continue to be controlled. Really, I should write a paper on this but I have no faith that any current academics would understand it. They are usually the chosen candidates of convenience, rather than candidates of conscience: merit is worthless in academia currently, in fact, it's a negative.

Seconded.

I've observed what's been happening over decades but since Blair its accelerated. Cummings has spoken about the need to alter the institutions and personally I think that without this conservatism or even eventually centralism is under existential threat.

You have hit the nail on the head....it's all about control. They want to control what you can say and they wish to control what you can think.

That's why their leaders were so eager to dominate education as that's the root of the branch which then grows into all other professions.

This focus on the future and wiliness to sacrifice present day battles for the minds of the next generation was in stark contrast to the normie right of the day...as that conservative woman stated. The right were asleep at the wheel.....the problem with many of them is that they are more concerned with their house price than with what comes after they die.

There is an old greek saying, 'Society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in'. I hate to say it, as I am of that same right wing demographic....but this 'future care' was not done by the right and they surrendered the ideological battlegrounds....many of them for their immediate fiscal security.

That insular self absorption will impact greatly upon their descendants.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 May 2020 5.05pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 30 Mar 21 6.01pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Not about degeneracy but this is a great video about the natural differences between most men and women and their perspectives and wants as opposed to what the modern culture tells them today.....which for those that take those messages seriously can be permanently damaging to life expectations.

Vee relates this in video.

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A victory for real conservatives today as Viktor Orban has won a fourth term by a landslide in Hungary.

I shall raise a glass today.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Apr 22 9.23am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A victory for real conservatives today as Viktor Orban has won a fourth term by a landslide in Hungary.

I shall raise a glass today.

Orban, the man who in his victory speech criticised Zelensky, calling him an opponent.

Orban, who to his credit has relaxed his brutal policy on refugees and accepted many from Ukraine, is nevertheless playing on both sides. Criticising the invasion but refusing to allow the transport of weapons across Hungary and buying more oil from Russia. Some think Orban is just a pragmatist. I think he is a populist whose main concern is personal survival and not the long term future of his country.

Orban is an untrustworthy partner, both within the EU and Nato. How both respond to him in the coming years will be interesting to observe. Hungary's membership of both could come under threat

Yes, you raise a glass. Friends like that I can do without.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Apr 22 9.49am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Orban, the man who in his victory speech criticised Zelensky, calling him an opponent.

Orban, who to his credit has relaxed his brutal policy on refugees and accepted many from Ukraine, is nevertheless playing on both sides. Criticising the invasion but refusing to allow the transport of weapons across Hungary and buying more oil from Russia. Some think Orban is just a pragmatist. I think he is a populist whose main concern is personal survival and not the long term future of his country.

Orban is an untrustworthy partner, both within the EU and Nato. How both respond to him in the coming years will be interesting to observe. Hungary's membership of both could come under threat

Yes, you raise a glass. Friends like that I can do without.

Your politics are precisely what this country doesn't need. As for other countries you were on here championing Biden, telling me how he was honest and not a liar....but just like I said he would the man has been an economic and foreign policy disaster.

So forgive me if I disregard your opinion and raise a glass to Hungary's continued success in giving your politics the appropriate hand signal.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I thought of the title 'social liberalism and social conservatism'....but as social liberalism and support for degeneracy are practically synonymous these days I went with degeneracy.

We have far too many 'deep fakes' out there pretending to be conservatives when in reality the only thing they want to conserve is their bank account.

Watson has a good video out on this topic out now.

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Instead of teaching our children about myths like equality and far left talking points we should be teaching them about duty and responsibility.

This country has been spiralling down for decades and it's time for a correction.


Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Sep 2019 8.55pm)

agreed. Let's begin with the overly-fecund drug-addicted grey-towelling trackie bottomed Longterm unemployed. How about compulsory military service ? Ukraine is nice at this time of the year.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Apr 22 10.35am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Your politics are precisely what this country doesn't need. As for other countries you were on here championing Biden, telling me how he was honest and not a liar....but just like I said he would the man has been an economic and foreign policy disaster.

So forgive me if I disregard your opinion and raise a glass to Hungary's continued success in giving your politics the appropriate hand signal.

Once again, you are doing what you always do. Stating your, very, minority opinion as though it's factual.

As "my" politics are pretty mainstream, and as such shared by many more others than yours, they aren't just what the country needs, they are what they thrive on. Not that there is a snowball's chance in hell that you will understand why that is, let alone accept it.

You are entitled to your opinion. But only to that opinion.

For the record, and for the umpteenth time, I have never "championed" Biden. I sometimes think that when you read posts, your prejudice dominates the actual words to the point that you convince yourself of your own viewpoints. I give thanks that Biden ousted Trump and, compared to him, is a safe pair of hands, willing to listen to others. I would have felt the same if Trump had been ousted as the GOP candidate, and they had won. Removing Trump was the prize. The USA is doing OK and recovering from a disastrous 4 years, made worse by the pandemic. It's steadying the ship economically and rebuilt trust internationally.

You, Orban and Putin have quite a lot in common. Not that you would realise it.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Apr 22 11.08am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Once again, you are doing what you always do. Stating your, very, minority opinion as though it's factual.

As "my" politics are pretty mainstream, and as such shared by many more others than yours, they aren't just what the country needs, they are what they thrive on. Not that there is a snowball's chance in hell that you will understand why that is, let alone accept it.

You are entitled to your opinion. But only to that opinion.

For the record, and for the umpteenth time, I have never "championed" Biden. I sometimes think that when you read posts, your prejudice dominates the actual words to the point that you convince yourself of your own viewpoints. I give thanks that Biden ousted Trump and, compared to him, is a safe pair of hands, willing to listen to others. I would have felt the same if Trump had been ousted as the GOP candidate, and they had won. Removing Trump was the prize. The USA is doing OK and recovering from a disastrous 4 years, made worse by the pandemic. It's steadying the ship economically and rebuilt trust internationally.

You, Orban and Putin have quite a lot in common. Not that you would realise it.

Only in the completely one sided media. In the real world, things are a little different.

Remember Brexit?

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Only in the completely one sided media. In the real world, things are a little different.

Remember Brexit?

Isn't that the truth!

One day you will actually enter the real world, outside the little bubble you currently inhabit, and realise that. This echo chamber isn't the real world. It's just a place to confirm your biases, rehearse your prejudices and scratch backs.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Isn't that the truth!

One day you will actually enter the real world, outside the little bubble you currently inhabit, and realise that. This echo chamber isn't the real world. It's just a place to confirm your biases, rehearse your prejudices and scratch backs.

Was Brexit won in a bubble?

A man living in 99.9% White and sparcely populated Cornwall can't talk to anyone about bubbles.

You think the BBC is not biased. How can anyone take you seriously?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Once again, you are doing what you always do. Stating your, very, minority opinion as though it's factual.

As "my" politics are pretty mainstream, and as such shared by many more others than yours, they aren't just what the country needs, they are what they thrive on. Not that there is a snowball's chance in hell that you will understand why that is, let alone accept it.

You are entitled to your opinion. But only to that opinion.

For the record, and for the umpteenth time, I have never "championed" Biden. I sometimes think that when you read posts, your prejudice dominates the actual words to the point that you convince yourself of your own viewpoints. I give thanks that Biden ousted Trump and, compared to him, is a safe pair of hands, willing to listen to others. I would have felt the same if Trump had been ousted as the GOP candidate, and they had won. Removing Trump was the prize. The USA is doing OK and recovering from a disastrous 4 years, made worse by the pandemic. It's steadying the ship economically and rebuilt trust internationally.

You, Orban and Putin have quite a lot in common. Not that you would realise it.

That's yet another lie, anyone who read your posts on Biden around the election knows that.

As for Orban and Putin having things in common. They are social conservatives for sure however it's plainly ridiculous to suggest anymore than that as Orban doesn't kill opponents or invade neighbours.....Russia is a gangster state and Hungary isn't.

Orban has supported the west's sanctions over Russia and accepted all the refugees that have come over the border....He is more focused upon a peace deal than deliberately continuing the war.

He bats for his country far more than our politicians in my view.....He doesn't bat for collectivist globalist elites like you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Apr 2022 2.36pm)

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Was Brexit won in a bubble?

A man living in 99.9% White and sparcely populated Cornwall can't talk to anyone about bubbles.

You think the BBC is not biased. How can anyone take you seriously?

My home is in Cornwall. I live in the world, with my eyes open and my brain working. Unlike some I could mention.

I don't "think" the BBC isn't biased. I know it isn't. Individual presenters will have their own views, but the BBC as an institution does not.

The only bias involving the BBC comes from narrow-minded people who are convinced it must be biased because it doesn't report things as they see them. That those biases exist on both sides of politics convinces me that the BBC do a pretty good job of walking the middle course.

 

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