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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 22 Sep 19 8.46pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by Goal Machine

Schlupp and Benteke

So we were playing in their half for large portions of the second 45 and had 2 good chances. That is not good enough.

 


"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017.

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View gerry theagle's Profile gerry theagle Flag newbury 22 Sep 19 8.48pm Send a Private Message to gerry theagle Add gerry theagle as a friend

We had enough good chances in the end to win the match, although to be fair we could have been a couple down at half time,so in the end a draw was a fair reflection of the game.Just gutting that the equaliser was 10 seconds from the final whistle.

 

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View Goal Machine's Profile Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 22 Sep 19 8.50pm Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

So we were playing in their half for large portions of the second 45 and had 2 good chances. That is not good enough.

I think we watched a different game. Wolves 65/35 first half, Palace 80/20 second half. 2 clear chances plus 1 goal should equal 3 goals. 3 goals usually good enough to win.

 

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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 22 Sep 19 8.57pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by Goal Machine

I think we watched a different game. Wolves 65/35 first half, Palace 80/20 second half. 2 clear chances plus 1 goal should equal 3 goals. 3 goals usually good enough to win.

You can always miss 2 clear chances though. If we were better organised going forward we would have had a lot more clear chances, and probably would have scored one. Considering how dominant we were in the second half, is 2 clear chances acceptable ?

 


"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017.

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View gerry theagle's Profile gerry theagle Flag newbury 22 Sep 19 8.57pm Send a Private Message to gerry theagle Add gerry theagle as a friend

If you take a moment to look at the Stats on FotMob it was totally overall an even game, so no real point in complaining, a point is a point at the end of the day, three next week would be useful.

 

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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 22 Sep 19 8.59pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by gerry theagle

If you take a moment to look at the Stats on FotMob it was totally overall an even game, so no real point in complaining, a point is a point at the end of the day, three next week would be useful.

It was an even game, but throwing away 3 points like that is criminal. I don't think we're any better than Wolves, but we have to be able to hold onto that lead against 10 men.

 


"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017.

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View gerry theagle's Profile gerry theagle Flag newbury 22 Sep 19 9.06pm Send a Private Message to gerry theagle Add gerry theagle as a friend

Correct Alex.

 

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View Goal Machine's Profile Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 22 Sep 19 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

You can always miss 2 clear chances though. If we were better organised going forward we would have had a lot more clear chances, and probably would have scored one. Considering how dominant we were in the second half, is 2 clear chances acceptable ?

It is if you score them. Roy can’t stick the ball in the net. On chances created we did enough to win today. I’ve never played football to a good standard but I don’t think it’s as easy to create chances as you may think.

For a club of our size, being organised and compact and creating more chances than we concede is a probably a good method. We’re sort of an opposite team to what we were under Pardew - as exciting as it was, results weren’t too hot.

It’s pretty boring and stale at the moment, but that’s a reflection of where we are as a club, stuck in mid table obscurity, rather than a reflection on Roy. In my opinion he’s doing a very solid job.

 

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View Nubes's Profile Nubes Flag London 22 Sep 19 9.18pm Send a Private Message to Nubes Add Nubes as a friend

The players are not 6 years old. They should now how to finish a game off.

So says EddieMac &#128514;

My question is: Did they finish the game off?

If wilf was instructed to head for the corner flag ( like a 6 year old) it is very likely we wouldn’t have conceded!

I’m a Deputy Head and managing adults who are professionals (teachers) is like managing 6 year olds - they need to be told what to do all of the time - footballers are no different.

 

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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 22 Sep 19 9.20pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by Goal Machine

It is if you score them. Roy can’t stick the ball in the net. On chances created we did enough to win today. I’ve never played football to a good standard but I don’t think it’s as easy to create chances as you may think.

For a club of our size, being organised and compact and creating more chances than we concede is a probably a good method. We’re sort of an opposite team to what we were under Pardew - as exciting as it was, results weren’t too hot.

It’s pretty boring and stale at the moment, but that’s a reflection of where we are as a club, stuck in mid table obscurity, rather than a reflection on Roy. In my opinion he’s doing a very solid job.

I think we agree on a lot. But watching other teams who are around our level going forward, they seem to have a plan and we don't. If that's the price you have to pay to be defensively solid then fair enough. Do you agree we needed an attacking midfielder on the pitch today ? Particularly when they were down to 10 men. We spent so much time around their box but didn't have a midfielder comfortable playing there. The Villa game was almost exactly the same, camped in their half and couldn't make it work.

My opinion isn't a knee jerk reaction to today's performance, I've been saying this for a while. We have some very good attacking players yet there is no cohesion. That's what the manager and coaches are supposed to do.

I don't want Roy to go, he is doing a very good job and we're in the best position we've ever been as a club in my lifetime. Doesn't make it any less frustrating when you can see the same problems every week.

 


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View Goal Machine's Profile Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 22 Sep 19 9.52pm Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

I think we agree on a lot. But watching other teams who are around our level going forward, they seem to have a plan and we don't. If that's the price you have to pay to be defensively solid then fair enough. Do you agree we needed an attacking midfielder on the pitch today ? Particularly when they were down to 10 men. We spent so much time around their box but didn't have a midfielder comfortable playing there. The Villa game was almost exactly the same, camped in their half and couldn't make it work.

My opinion isn't a knee jerk reaction to today's performance, I've been saying this for a while. We have some very good attacking players yet there is no cohesion. That's what the manager and coaches are supposed to do.

I don't want Roy to go, he is doing a very good job and we're in the best position we've ever been as a club in my lifetime. Doesn't make it any less frustrating when you can see the same problems every week.

I do think we should have had an attacking midfielder on. I’m a big fan of Meyer and think he should be starting home games.

However, I’m no master tactician and I felt on balance of play we were good enough to win. We might have been overrun in midfield if Meyer/Camarasa started - we’ll never know.

We looked comfortable second half and it felt like the second goal was coming. In hindsight, you’re probably right that a creative midfielder may have made the difference. Didn’t cross my mind at the time though because we were so on top.

 

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View gerry theagle's Profile gerry theagle Flag newbury 22 Sep 19 9.55pm Send a Private Message to gerry theagle Add gerry theagle as a friend

Problem is that with the current system we don't seem to be able to incorporate an attacking midfielder, it's a pity as that's why I thought Camerasa came to the club to enable us to go forward without going sideways and backwards before we eventually go forward.
Problem is who gets left out to accommodate him and this would obviously make us more vulnerable at the back. Its a difficult one, at the moment I'm inclined to stick with the current system, not wonderful to watch but pretty effective in that we don't get hammered that often,and pick up good results from time to time.

 

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