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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 23 Sep 19 6.05pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

We should have been two down at half time, we should have been two up in the second. 1-1 was fair result, even if it's frustrating that we failed to manage the game at the end. Camarasa played the lone striker/false 9 role at Cardiff at times last season, so just take Bentenke out the squad. I said it last week, he is embarrassing himself and the club with his inept performances. Find him a loan in January where he can see out his contract.

On the plus side, I thought Ward had a good game until the weird attempted floor header at the end and Kouyate imposed himself on the game. Wilf once again proved too much for the opposition fullback and looks much better on the right. Sakho was better than last week and should hopefully be back to himself by next Saturday. Vicente had a very good game.

Yes 1-1 fair result, Benteke I feel needs to just simply bloody score and in his desperation to do so is simply trying too hard to make sure he does! ..he is totally scared stiff of his performances and the flak from fans what Hodgson is doing is correct with him.
Ward just lost his feet and I thought Kouyate had his best ever game with us, he was quite outstanding at times ..but as you mentioned during that first half I thought we could easily have been three down and chasing a virtual lost cause for the second, we were extremely lucky.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Sep 19 6.07pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

We were camped in their half and didn't create anything of note. That is exactly the time to make a change to unlock their defence. Playing with 3 holding midfielders against 10 men is ridiculous. We needed to kill the game off, yet Roy didn't take advantage of the man advantage. Part of managing a game is to see that things aren't working and to try and change that. He didn't, we continued to waste all of the promising positions we were getting into and then look nervy for the last 10 minutes. The exact same thing happened against Villa and we were nearly punished then.

So which of these are you going with ?

And what '' wasn't working '' ? We were keeping Wolves contained and then contrived to miss two sitters that would have secured three points and then Ward made an unfortunate error. In my opinion you introduce flair players when you are chasing the game which we weren't at 1-0 up.

Look, I'm no fan of the football being served up at the moment, and yes I would like to see a creative midfield player come in and make a difference. But I'm not convinced that Hodgson can get the best out of that type of player. And while his remit is to keep the club in the Premier League and his methods achieve that, it's largely pointless levelling some of the criticism he gets.

 


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Originally posted by NEILLO

That's part of the shape and structure.

To suggest they are not being properly coached is absurd.

Despite being '' clueless '' going forward we still created two gilt edged chances to wrap the game up.

This with brass knobs, there were at least three occasions where scoring would have been much much easier ..if one had gone in all the writing would be about the first half display only.

 

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View daven's Profile daven Flag Hailsham 23 Sep 19 7.43pm Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

Its almost like we need two managers, one for home games and roy for away games .

 

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Originally posted by daven

Its almost like we need two managers, one for home games and roy for away games .

Actually all we need is a decent striker!

 

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Why are we all too often sub-standard in first halves?

 

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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 23 Sep 19 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

So which of these are you going with ?

And what '' wasn't working '' ? We were keeping Wolves contained and then contrived to miss two sitters that would have secured three points and then Ward made an unfortunate error. In my opinion you introduce flair players when you are chasing the game which we weren't at 1-0 up.

Look, I'm no fan of the football being served up at the moment, and yes I would like to see a creative midfield player come in and make a difference. But I'm not convinced that Hodgson can get the best out of that type of player. And while his remit is to keep the club in the Premier League and his methods achieve that, it's largely pointless levelling some of the criticism he gets.

They are both valid points and don't contradict each other. Getting into promising positions isn't the same as creating chances. How many times did Wilf get free down the right, or get into the box only for there not to be a player making a run to give him an option ?

 


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Originally posted by NEILLO

That's part of the shape and structure.

To suggest they are not being properly coached is absurd.

Despite being '' clueless '' going forward we still created two gilt edged chances to wrap the game up.

Our shape and structure when we're out of possession is very good, that's what Roy does well. There is no pattern to our play going forward. If we are so well set up defensively yet so haphazard going forward, where does the fault lie ?

 


"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017.

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 23 Sep 19 11.07pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

The total lack of professionalism is breathtaking at times, yet time and again we manage to eclipse the previous performance.

I am not going to blame anyone for letting the 3 points slip through our fingers, as the whole team and the management were equally at fault. If anything has been learnt from yesterday’s performance can this be brought to our next home game against Norwich...


 

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Originally posted by Alex1991

They are both valid points and don't contradict each other. Getting into promising positions isn't the same as creating chances. How many times did Wilf get free down the right, or get into the box only for there not to be a player making a run to give him an option ?

How can you say that we didn’t create anything of note and then say we wasted promising positions ?! It’s one or the other.

Zaha can make all the runs he likes but while the club fail to sign a genuine goal scorer that has the awareness to provide that outlet for him then we will continue to struggle to score goals

 


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Originally posted by Alex1991

Our shape and structure when we're out of possession is very good, that's what Roy does well. There is no pattern to our play going forward. If we are so well set up defensively yet so haphazard going forward, where does the fault lie ?

So what would you do with the players at Hodgson ‘s disposal - let’s remind ourselves that our forwards consist of a washed up Benteke a sick note Wickham and the hard working but not exactly lethal Ayew ?

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Sep 19 10.32am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

So what would you do with the players at Hodgson ‘s disposal - let’s remind ourselves that our forwards consist of a washed up Benteke a sick note Wickham and the hard working but not exactly lethal Ayew ?

Precisely.

We are certainly not-freighted with great forward prowess, as per last season, when our top scorer was Milivojevic with penalties and free kicks.No additions up front and no replacement for AWB - what a wonderful transfer window ! I actually feel for Hodgson who certainly hasn't been supported in the transfer market.

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