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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 17 Oct 19 3.05pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by KAOS

I get that mate ... it's assuming they're all zero hour contract workers that I'm struggling with!

I took it to be exaggerated irony.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Oct 19 3.08pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That’s true. If I could find a vegan approved hair shirt and some carbon friendly ash I’d atone for such cynicism.

Great idea for all you white middle class liberals and you guilty conscience

"Hair Shirt by Givenchy" Guaranteed to make you feel guilty about white privelge and climate change all day.

On a more serious note they could do something practical such as:

Give up their air miles and start a campaign to get airlines to put more seats on planes by getting rid of first class etc.

Or free water. I just got back from Andalusia they don't have public toilets or water fountains. You just pop into the nearest bar or restaurant use the toilet and ask them to fill up your water bottle. They should campaign to make it the law in this country if access was easy people would stop buying plastic bottles and I think most people would be happy with that solution. Simple and easy to implement.


 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 17 Oct 19 3.22pm

Would be good to turn up outside one of these bellends homes in the morning and park my van across their drive and just stand there with my mates and some banners protesting about some sh@t.

Lets see how calm they are when Mrs cant do the school run and Mr cant get to work.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 17 Oct 19 3.24pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

A bit more perspective is that he can eat as much tofu as he likes but he earns a living driving a car which averages 4 mpg.

What the graphic clearly demonstrates is that in terms of environmental impact, animal agriculture dwarfs transport emissions, so to chose to champion one and not the other is a fairly reasonable position.

Of course, pointing out that everyone uses electricity and has a mobile phone is far more important than any reasoned discussion though.

 

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View Jamesey's Profile Jamesey Flag Wandsworth 17 Oct 19 3.43pm Send a Private Message to Jamesey Add Jamesey as a friend

Originally posted by YT

I took it to be exaggerated irony.

Thanks YT, your interpretation is the correct one.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 17 Oct 19 3.45pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Jamesey

Thanks YT, your interpretation is the correct one.

You're welcome, and I look forward to receiving that fiver you promised me.

 


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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

What the graphic clearly demonstrates is that in terms of environmental impact, animal agriculture dwarfs transport emissions, so to chose to champion one and not the other is a fairly reasonable position.

Of course, pointing out that everyone uses electricity and has a mobile phone is far more important than any reasoned discussion though.

But surely this is the point. Most people don't really give a sh!t about most things. Ergo they will carry on doing what they like (speeding, foreign holidays, leaving lights on, going to motor racing, refusing to recycle...). "The government needs to take action to encourage a change in behaviour, therefore." Fine, except in this country we have a tradition of not accepting being told what is good for us, and such an attitude is particularly prevelant among the kind of 'liberals' we see getting worked up in this situation.

 


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Originally posted by YT

But surely this is the point. Most people don't really give a sh!t about most things. Ergo they will carry on doing what they like (speeding, foreign holidays, leaving lights on, going to motor racing, refusing to recycle...). "The government needs to take action to encourage a change in behaviour, therefore." Fine, except in this country we have a tradition of not accepting being told what is good for us, and such an attitude is particularly prevelant among the kind of 'liberals' we see getting worked up in this situation.

The whole protest is about government action, not individual action. No one is asking people to stop using electricity.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 17 Oct 19 4.07pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The whole protest is about government action, not individual action. No one is asking people to stop using electricity.

So what is our government supposed to do then? These same people full of glee at the government not having a majority and therefore unable to get anything done and therefore wasting all our time with a Queen's Speech, somehow expect the same government to save the world.

 


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Originally posted by YT

So what is our government supposed to do then? These same people full of glee at the government not having a majority and therefore unable to get anything done and therefore wasting all our time with a Queen's Speech, somehow expect the same government to save the world.

Seriously?

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 17 Oct 19 4.49pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Seriously?

Yep. Tell me what this current government is supposed to do in order to "save the planet" when you've already said that it's not a question of action by individuals.

 


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Originally posted by YT

Yep. Tell me what this current government is supposed to do in order to "save the planet" when you've already said that it's not a question of action by individuals.

Honestly if your position is ‘what can the government of the country do’ then there isn’t any point having the discussion.

 

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