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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 17 Oct 19 5.10pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Honestly if your position is ‘what can the government of the country do’ then there isn’t any point having the discussion.

OK. Fine.

 


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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Would be good to turn up outside one of these bellends homes in the morning and park my van across their drive and just stand there with my mates and some banners protesting about some sh@t.

Lets see how calm they are when Mrs cant do the school run and Mr cant get to work.

There is no way any of those mugs are employable

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Oct 19 5.21pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Adds some perspective to Hamilton’s comments.

Aw that's a pretty rainbow.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Oct 19 5.26pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Honestly if your position is ‘what can the government of the country do’ then there isn’t any point having the discussion.

I think you've mentioned about a minority government having no power.
Explains why they cant do anything then.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Oct 19 5.30pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

What the graphic clearly demonstrates is that in terms of environmental impact, animal agriculture dwarfs transport emissions, so to chose to champion one and not the other is a fairly reasonable position.

Of course, pointing out that everyone uses electricity and has a mobile phone is far more important than any reasoned discussion though.

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And of course stats that don’t support the argument aren’t important either.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

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And of course stats that don’t support the argument aren’t important either.



Of course they are, because that would be a reasoned discussion - I’m a million miles away from saying you can’t disagree with me, but I just find this ‘how can XXX talk about the environment when they once caught an aeroplane’ angle so silly.

On the stats; it’s interesting reading, but obviously specific to one country in one year, and only comparing greenhouse gas emissions - I don’t think it particularly disproves what I’ve said in terms of championing the animal agriculture angle over another.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

I think you've mentioned about a minority government having no power.
Explains why they cant do anything then.

I really hope this in jest.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Oct 19 6.11pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow



Of course they are, because that would be a reasoned discussion - I’m a million miles away from saying you can’t disagree with me, but I just find this ‘how can XXX talk about the environment when they once caught an aeroplane’ angle so silly.

On the stats; it’s interesting reading, but obviously specific to one country in one year, and only comparing greenhouse gas emissions - I don’t think it particularly disproves what I’ve said in terms of championing the animal agriculture angle over another.

I’m not really disagreeing with you. It’s more a general discontent at singers, actors, sportsmen, etc thinking their view has any more validity than anyone else’s. Of course they’re entitled to an opinion but it’s like a Monty Python sketch - Bernie Winters guide to the Exchange Rate Mechanism or Lulu on the Vietnam war.

 

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deleted user Flag 17 Oct 19 7.08pm

A bad choice in protesting in tube stations, or any other relatively environmentally friendly method of transport. The line between publicity and sanity was crossed, and I'd hope that they will think twice next time.

 

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jeeagles Flag 18 Oct 19 8.23am

Originally posted by dollardays

A bad choice in protesting in tube stations, or any other relatively environmentally friendly method of transport. The line between publicity and sanity was crossed, and I'd hope that they will think twice next time.

The first set of protests raised more than enough publicity. This one just seems to be a reunion for them all to cause mischief.

I saw a post from one earlier saying that it's unfair that they have been banned from London whilst Britian First haven't. Let's get this straight, I've no doubt that Tommy Robinson is a vile human being who is full of hate, but he's very careful with how he acts, what he says, broadcasts and does. You lot are a rampaging band of nutcases and there's a cold place in hell for anyone who pisses of London commuters (I dont make the rules).

The two guys who jumped on the tube train were self serving arseholes out to antagonise people who'd done a hard days work for no reason but to raise their own profile withing Extinction Rebellion. The response was fair.

 

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jeeagles Flag 18 Oct 19 8.27am

Originally posted by dollardays

A bad choice in protesting in tube stations, or any other relatively environmentally friendly method of transport. The line between publicity and sanity was crossed, and I'd hope that they will think twice next time.

The first set of protests raised more than enough publicity. This one just seems to be a reunion for them all to cause mischief.

I saw a post from one earlier saying that it's unfair that they have been banned from London whilst Britian First haven't. Let's get this straight, I've no doubt that Tommy Robinson is a vile human being who is full of hate, but he's very careful with how he acts, what he says, broadcasts and does. You lot are a rampaging band of nutcases and there's a cold place in hell for anyone who pisses of London commuters (I dont make the rules).

The two guys who jumped on the tube train were self serving arseholes out to antagonise people who'd done a hard days work for no reason but to raise their own profile withing Extinction Rebellion. The response was fair.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Oct 19 8.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

ER have achieved their main aim which is to raise awareness about climate change. Protests can get you so far but at some point the public are entitled to ask what is your solution?

If ER don't change their tactics they will be seen as a white middle class virtue signalling group and will lose public support. Look at the occupations of their people at Canning Town not exactly the low paid zero hour contract types.

As I have posted previously they now need to move beyond snarling up the traffic and start to campaign on specific issues which could be achieved fairly easily. Reduce plastic bottles, reduce packaging pick up litter get kids walking to school etc. If you start with the little things then people will be more likely to listen to you about the bigger challenges.

It wont be easy to get the public to give up things but they will earn the respect of people or they can become like Parliament against everything and for nothing.

ER are at the crossroads carry on as they are and I expect more resistance from the public change tactics and it will take longer and will be harder but they can build a solid support base with the public.


 


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