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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 15 Oct 19 10.36am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I thought Bulgaria were pretty pathetic last night England did what they had to do.

As for the racist chanting the Bulgarian manager never heard anything, what a surprise.

I think the head of the Bulgarian FA before the game also denied there was a problem.

For those who say we have a problem with racism in football can you imagine the head of our FA and Gareth Southgate saying those things and getting away with it?

Maybe the 3 step UEAFA protocol is the way forward although if the game is abandoned they really need to punish the offending team by throwing them out of the contest and not a stupid little fine.

We are way ahead of the curve in fighting racism maybe just maybe the rest of Europe is starting to wake up to it.

Bulgaria are already out of the contest by virtue of there Performances. They should be thrown out of this one AND the next European Championships for it to be any kind of punishment of any worth.

 


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View black eagle.'s Profile black eagle. Flag south croydon. 15 Oct 19 12.21pm Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

Well done England on a thumping win,off the pitch time to kick Bulgaria out of all football for four years.

I couldn't believe the Bulgarian manager saying he didn't hear any racist abuse,I was watching on telly and could hear it, yet he couldn't hear it pitch side.

ITV should send their footage to UEFA which clearly shows Nazi salutes and monkey chants.

Shutting the stadium and fining them is not enough.

 

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

Palace fans will just about watch England when they are doing well. I feel disconnected from them though, due to their big club bias.
Basically impossible for Palace players to play for England even when we are doing better than the supposed big boys.
Southgate is just about to learn that it's pretty hard to get anything except mediocrity from the overpaid stars that he picks. I've always believed that if England didn't bother with the big time Charlie's and picked a side full of championship players, they would probably do better on the pitch.

Bonkers

Regarding big club bias; I think Sheff Utd, Norwich and Wolves are the only Prem clubs not to have a player called up by Southgate since he took over, so the argument just doesn’t hold up at all - Mings, Keane, Rice, Maddison, Chilwell, Callum Wilson are all regulars in the squad now, so it’s a long way from impossible.


 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Oct 19 3.27pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

According to the Mail at a press conference Southgate attended the Bulgarian press were denying there was a problem. I think they are where we were in the seventies.

Time to grow up guys.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 15 Oct 19 3.43pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I thought Bulgaria were pretty pathetic last night England did what they had to do.

As for the racist chanting the Bulgarian manager never heard anything, what a surprise.

I think the head of the Bulgarian FA before the game also denied there was a problem.

For those who say we have a problem with racism in football can you imagine the head of our FA and Gareth Southgate saying those things and getting away with it?

Maybe the 3 step UEAFA protocol is the way forward although if the game is abandoned they really need to punish the offending team by throwing them out of the contest and not a stupid little fine.

We are way ahead of the curve in fighting racism maybe just maybe the rest of Europe is starting to wake up to it.

He's resigned from his post today.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Oct 19 5.00pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

It seems that Alekander Ceferin, Pres of UEFA, has said that they cant do it alone & that the European govts HAVE to interciced & combat the problem 1st. Source BBC Sport.

Just goes to show the powers that be in football dont care, until its England. Mark my words.

 


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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 15 Oct 19 5.43pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by black eagle.

Well done England on a thumping win,off the pitch time to kick Bulgaria out of all football for four years.

I couldn't believe the Bulgarian manager saying he didn't hear any racist abuse,I was watching on telly and could hear it, yet he couldn't hear it pitch side.

ITV should send their footage to UEFA which clearly shows Nazi salutes and monkey chants.

Shutting the stadium and fining them is not enough.

There were a lot of youngsters amongst the Bulgarian oiks and like youngsters anywhere they are always likely to be easily led into doing the wrong thing. Probably of more concern should be the fact that someone organised and paid for the "anti respect" T shirts worn by many. Who ... I wonder?

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Oct 19 5.55pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

There were a lot of youngsters amongst the Bulgarian oiks and like youngsters anywhere they are always likely to be easily led into doing the wrong thing. Probably of more concern should be the fact that someone organised and paid for the "anti respect" T shirts worn by many. Who ... I wonder?

I never saw any 'anti respect' t shirts worn by anyone, i did however, see a black hoodie/sweatshirt/t shirt held aloft with the UEFA logo & the words 'No Respect' across it.

England has a far worse racism problem than Bulgaria.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 15 Oct 19 5.58pm

Probably going to stir this up a bit but want to say how I feel.

Racism is of course wrong in any any form, regardless of if it’s related to football. However, last nights SKY tv coverage was pure sensationalism. There have been murders at football games which have received far less attention than last night.

In the end, and as disgusting as it was, it was only name calling. Didn’t an England fan get killed last night which received no attention.

The SKY reporters were falling over themselves to see who could be the most self-righteous. They were treating it like they had discovered Watergate!

As I say, all racism is disgusting and those who know me offline know my own heritage. But come on, let’s have a bit of perspective.

 


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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 15 Oct 19 6.37pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

I never saw any 'anti respect' t shirts worn by anyone, i did however, see a black hoodie/sweatshirt/t shirt held aloft with the UEFA logo & the words 'No Respect' across it.

England has a far worse racism problem than Bulgaria.

Anti respect = "no respect" for the pedantic amongst us ... heartfelt apologies for getting that so wrong!
My point was really about someone going to the trouble of printing more than one slogan on a shirt or hoody or whatever. I'm sure they'd have been much more usefully employed correcting facts on Holmesdale.

 


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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Probably going to stir this up a bit but want to say how I feel.

Racism is of course wrong in any any form, regardless of if it’s related to football. However, last nights SKY tv coverage was pure sensationalism. There have been murders at football games which have received far less attention than last night.

In the end, and as disgusting as it was, it was only name calling. Didn’t an England fan get killed last night which received no attention.

The SKY reporters were falling over themselves to see who could be the most self-righteous. They were treating it like they had discovered Watergate!

As I say, all racism is disgusting and those who know me offline know my own heritage. But come on, let’s have a bit of perspective.


Totally agree with you Tom. Totally anti racism, but come on. These were a load of anti establishment youths who were out on a wind up mission. If Bulgaria even began to take it seriously they would have all been ejected instantly they started. This is a country like many other including here who have these types who are out to stir things up.
Racism in football has been really brought to the fore to the extent it is now overshadowing the sport to the extent that it is becoming unenjoyable. As a non racist, I found the game devoid of any fun and I will not watch England away again. Football withered into the background. It needs to take a long hard look at itself because if this is the future then I am out.

 

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Sterling is this week's topic - rather than the game.

 


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