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Tom-the-eagle  Croydon 17 Nov 19 6.33pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Obviously I want England to win every match.....but I've got to say it. I can't stand Southgate.....he was a good player for us but as a bloke he makes my skin crawl.....Ever since that pizza advert. He's like Lineker....Everything he says just winds me up. I bet he's a Lib Dem. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2019 2.55pm)
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 Badger11 Beckenham 17 Nov 19 6.57pm |
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I wouldn't play that back four against a decent team they were awful. Mings not good enough TAA had a poor game and Harry Macguire looked liked he'd never seen a football before. Add to that Hudson Odoi was rubbish and I don't get why Declan Rice is in the squad. Still we won 4-0 but only after Rashford came on and livened things up.
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| sickboy Deal or Croydon 17 Nov 19 7.08pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I wouldn't play that back four against a decent team they were awful. Mings not good enough TAA had a poor game and Harry Macguire looked liked he'd never seen a football before. Add to that Hudson Odoi was rubbish and I don't get why Declan Rice is in the squad. Still we won 4-0 but only after Rashford came on and livened things up. Can't argue with any of that.
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| Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 18 Nov 19 7.01am |
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This is a superb England squad with the exception of defensive midfield and ability to defend set pieces. I'd be interested to see AWB tried in defensive midfield with his tackling ability, pace & ability with short passing. A hard experiment to make just in an England shirt though!!
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| Badger11 Beckenham 18 Nov 19 8.54am |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
This is a superb England squad with the exception of defensive midfield and ability to defend set pieces. I'd be interested to see AWB tried in defensive midfield with his tackling ability, pace & ability with short passing. A hard experiment to make just in an England shirt though!! Agreed. Southgate tried to experiment last night it didn't work which I am sure he realised. If we can play the way we did against Montenegro and sort out our defence we have a really good chance of winning it.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 19 Nov 19 5.01pm |
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Originally posted by kenners46
Serious question but has he called up a Palace player in his time then ? Loftus Cheek was called up while a Palace player.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 19 Nov 19 5.09pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Agreed. Southgate tried to experiment last night it didn't work which I am sure he realised. If we can play the way we did against Montenegro and sort out our defence we have a really good chance of winning it. Kosovo are also a much better side than Montenegro, so was always going to be a tougher fixture - they rarely lose at home. I think a lot of football fans in England are still fairly blind on how good we are/going to be over the next few years - the quality of the kids coming through is comparable to the 04/06 generation, and we’re cleaning up at youth level. Kane and Sterling are already world class, Rashford isn’t far off it and we’ve then got Abraham, Sancho and Hudson-Odoi competing behind them. Mount, Rice, Tomori, James, Maddison, Chilwell, Trent, Sancho, Hudson-Odoi, Gomez all have the potential to play at the highest level. Below that you’ve got Foden, Brewster and Greenwood who are all already involved in the first teams at club level for City, Liverpool and Utd respectively. We’re second favourites behind France for the Euros with nearly every bookmaker, but most England fans still seem to think we’re s***. Give it another 5 years when everyone I’ve metioned above should be closer to their prime age, and we’re a serious prospect.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 19 Nov 19 5.48pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Loftus Cheek was called up while a Palace player. Sorry, doesn't count, he was still a Chelsea owned player. Original Q? stands.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 19 Nov 19 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Kosovo are also a much better side than Montenegro, so was always going to be a tougher fixture - they rarely lose at home. I think a lot of football fans in England are still fairly blind on how good we are/going to be over the next few years - the quality of the kids coming through is comparable to the 04/06 generation, and we’re cleaning up at youth level. Kane and Sterling are already world class, Rashford isn’t far off it and we’ve then got Abraham, Sancho and Hudson-Odoi competing behind them. Mount, Rice, Tomori, James, Maddison, Chilwell, Trent, Sancho, Hudson-Odoi, Gomez all have the potential to play at the highest level. Below that you’ve got Foden, Brewster and Greenwood who are all already involved in the first teams at club level for City, Liverpool and Utd respectively. We’re second favourites behind France for the Euros with nearly every bookmaker, but most England fans still seem to think we’re s***. Give it another 5 years when everyone I’ve metioned above should be closer to their prime age, and we’re a serious prospect. I don't disagree I just think the team selection was wrong against Kosovo and the weakest area is the defence. Don't get me wrong I applaud Southgate for experimenting I just hope he realised that one didn't work too good even though we won. If we can sort out our defence we have a really good chance of winning the Euros.
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 19 Nov 19 6.18pm |
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Originally posted by kenners46
Serious question but has he called up a Palace player in his time then ? Done some 'easy' research . . . Hope this answers your Q?
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 19 Nov 19 6.20pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Sorry, doesn't count, he was still a Chelsea owned player. Original Q? stands. Despite your arrogant dismissal, your point doesn’t make any sense - Even using your logic, that’s 4/16 teams who haven’t had a call up from Southgate, and 2 of those have only been in the top flight for a few months, so he’s called up from nearly everywhere in the last couple of years. Again, Mings, Keane, Rice, Maddison, Chilwell, Callum Wilson are all regulars in the squad now, so the argument doesn’t hold any logical weight.
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 19 Nov 19 6.30pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Despite your arrogant dismissal, your point doesn’t make any sense - Even using your logic, that’s 4/16 teams who haven’t had a call up from Southgate, and 2 of those have only been in the top flight for a few months, so he’s called up from nearly everywhere in the last couple of years. Again, Mings, Keane, Rice, Maddison, Chilwell, Callum Wilson are all regulars in the squad now, so the argument doesn’t hold any logical weight. Despite your very rude reply what do the players you mention have to do with Palace players being called up by Southgate? Jeez. Have a nice day
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