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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 03 Nov 19 9.02pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by derby eagle


Palace is indeed for everybody when they leave their views at the gate and do not associate their views with the club.

I am not sure that you envisaged a group of fans in the name of CPFC, coalessing around a far right group (DFLA) in secret. I take it you agree with that statement?

Yes Indeed you're right in what you say, but what's good for the goose etc. Imagine being a supporter of say St Pauli or even Dulwich Town & having to hear a hardcore minority espousing left wing politics on the terraces in which you didn't particularly agree with?
That could also become quite tedious eventually.

 


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View SamCPFC17's Profile SamCPFC17 Flag Croydon 03 Nov 19 9.30pm Send a Private Message to SamCPFC17 Add SamCPFC17 as a friend

Look, I'm a committed leftie, but I agree with all the posters on this thread (whether they're left or right wing) that we should leave politics behind when we walk through the turnstiles at Palace.

We all have our own views, but at the end of the day the only thing that matters at Selhurst on a matchday is that we're all Palace. I don't want to see us become a politicised club on either side of the spectrum - we're a club for South London's working class, whether they're black, white, Labour, Tory, left wing or right wing. End of.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Nov 19 9.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SamCPFC17

Look, I'm a committed leftie, but I agree with all the posters on this thread (whether they're left or right wing) that we should leave politics behind when we walk through the turnstiles at Palace.

We all have our own views, but at the end of the day the only thing that matters at Selhurst on a matchday is that we're all Palace. I don't want to see us become a politicised club on either side of the spectrum - we're a club for South London's working class, whether they're black, white, Labour, Tory, left wing or right wing. End of.

I quite agree.....though it's only for the working class who can afford it of course.

A day out at the Palace or any other Premier club isn't for the breadline.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Nov 2019 9.44pm)

 


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View SamCPFC17's Profile SamCPFC17 Flag Croydon 03 Nov 19 10.12pm Send a Private Message to SamCPFC17 Add SamCPFC17 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I quite agree.....though it's only for the working class who can afford it of course.

A day out at the Palace or any other Premier club isn't for the breadline.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Nov 2019 9.44pm)

Sadly true...

 

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View majorkaios's Profile majorkaios Flag Trowbridge, Wilts 04 Nov 19 1.53am Send a Private Message to majorkaios Add majorkaios as a friend

Just wondered why no one here has considered the Neighbors.

What would the local people think when they hear 'Chants of TOMMY ROBINSON' coming out loud and clear from the Crystal Palace stadium, have a look around at the folks living here and I'm sure you will agree that hardly any would be amused.

I've lived in Oliver Grove, where every chant is loud and clear as it was when I lived on South Norwood Hill. And you could hear every Goal from as far away as Ecclesboune Road when I lived there as and my misses told me.

'This Freedom of Speach' mantra is being stretched too far methinks in this arena.

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Originally posted by majorkaios

Just wondered why no one here has considered the Neighbors.

What would the local people think when they hear 'Chants of TOMMY ROBINSON' coming out loud and clear from the Crystal Palace stadium, have a look around at the folks living here and I'm sure you will agree that hardly any would be amused.

I've lived in Oliver Grove, where every chant is loud and clear as it was when I lived on South Norwood Hill. And you could hear every Goal from as far away as Ecclesboune Road when I lived there as and my misses told me.

'This Freedom of Speach' mantra is being stretched too far methinks in this arena.

COYP

There is much I could say and argue about this but in respect of this particular situation I think we generally as a Palace family have reached the same conclusion.

We don't come to football matches to hear Robinson or indeed any political chants. It's out of place, divisive and a distraction.

I don't support punishing people but I do encourage them to leave the politics at the turnstile as pretty much all of us do.

 


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Originally posted by majorkaios

Just wondered why no one here has considered the Neighbors.

What would the local people think when they hear 'Chants of TOMMY ROBINSON' coming out loud and clear from the Crystal Palace stadium, have a look around at the folks living here and I'm sure you will agree that hardly any would be amused.

I've lived in Oliver Grove, where every chant is loud and clear as it was when I lived on South Norwood Hill. And you could hear every Goal from as far away as Ecclesboune Road when I lived there as and my misses told me.

'This Freedom of Speach' mantra is being stretched too far methinks in this arena.

COYP

I disagree, you cannot ever stretch freedom of speech too far. But you can certainly stretch the excuses for gagging it too far.
The guy with the hook (I forget his name) openly encouraged violence, hatred and applauded terrorism against the very country that provided him with the freedom to say such things. And for a long time the authorities could do little to stop him.
I am not saying for a single second that I agree to him being allowed to peddle that kind of hatred while attempting to poison decent young muslim minds but if this is openly allowed in our country under the freedom of speech act I fail to see how anyone has the right to tell anyone else what to say or believe (as long as they are non violent) at a football match.
Too many Corbynites thinking its fine to have your own views as long as they are our views. Why can people not get their head around the fact that other people will always see things differently to yourself? I agree that if someone's comments are found offensive its hard to be tolerant history has surely taught us that you cannot force anyone to stop believing something.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 04 Nov 19 5.22pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

I think there's consensus to leave ALL politics, left, right, green & loony, at the turnstiles. That would be pleasant for everyone, no?

 


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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I think there's consensus to leave ALL politics, left, right, green & loony, at the turnstiles. That would be pleasant for everyone, no?

Agree in theory. Problem is not everyone will adhere

 

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Interesting thread and I'd say it is good to debate these things, that's what this forum is for. You can't keep politics out of football, politics is life and its everywhere.

I have a question, given the current ongoing debate in the wider football world surrounding racism, can anyone tell me what Palace as a club are doing to campaign and kick racism out of football? Is the club doing anything positive to proactively take part in wider campaigns and support for example the PL's 'No Room For Racism'?

Thanks

 

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Originally posted by SamCPFC17

Look, I'm a committed leftie, but I agree with all the posters on this thread (whether they're left or right wing) that we should leave politics behind when we walk through the turnstiles at Palace.

We all have our own views, but at the end of the day the only thing that matters at Selhurst on a matchday is that we're all Palace. I don't want to see us become a politicised club on either side of the spectrum - we're a club for South London's working class, whether they're black, white, Labour, Tory, left wing or right wing. End of.

Exactly that. I want to see goals, not manifestos.

 

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Originally posted by angrypirate

Interesting thread and I'd say it is good to debate these things, that's what this forum is for. You can't keep politics out of football, politics is life and its everywhere.

I have a question, given the current ongoing debate in the wider football world surrounding racism, can anyone tell me what Palace as a club are doing to campaign and kick racism out of football? Is the club doing anything positive to proactively take part in wider campaigns and support for example the PL's 'No Room For Racism'?

Thanks

Try reading the Club's website........

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They have been very active right from the start of the kick racism out of football campaign - and why wouldn't they, given how many BME people there are both in the club and the support?

 


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