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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Nov 19 9.08pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am very happy about it.

The bigger a barrier we place between ourselves and Russia the better. The more countries that are bought into the European family the better our security will be. Their increasing prosperity will bring us new markets. Co-operation and common goals are always better than conflicts and disparate visions. We will maintain higher standards together and negotiate better trade deals from strength. Standing up to the USA under Trump is so much more easily done as part of the EU than not. Don't anyone be fooled by Trump's "offer" to us. He want's us out and then for the EU to implode so the USA can start to milk the European countries, for instance on drug prices. He won't be doing us any favours. He will start on us.

Or we get dragged into a war because we have to support one of Russia's neighbours who are being threatened because of their ties to the EU.

As for economics I'm all for co-operation and trade links etc. I am not in favour of bailing out other countries at are expense. I very much doubt any of the countries mentioned will be net contributors to the EU budget for quite a while which means someone else has to foot the bill.

 


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deleted user Flag 02 Nov 19 9.41pm

Originally posted by Willo

I suspect there is going to be volatility in both the markets and polls as the campaigns unfold.

Possibly. A lot can happen in 6 or 7 weeks. On the surface though, unless Farage throws a spanner in the works, it's Boris' to lose.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Nov 19 9.55pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Or we get dragged into a war because we have to support one of Russia's neighbours who are being threatened because of their ties to the EU.


Why? The EU has no military responsibilities. That would be a NATO decision. Putin trying to break up the EU has everything to do with him wanting to reclaim control over the previous soviet union dominated countries. Bringing them under the EU umbrella makes that impossible. They will no more want a hot war now than they did 50 years ago.


As for economics I'm all for co-operation and trade links etc. I am not in favour of bailing out other countries at are expense. I very much doubt any of the countries mentioned will be net contributors to the EU budget for quite a while which means someone else has to foot the bill.

It's not a "bail out". It's an investment. Helping any country to develop and prosper is ultimately in everyone's interests, apart from being a human responsibility. It is also very much in our local interests to have successful democracies on our eastern flank.


 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 02 Nov 19 10.08pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am very happy about it.

The bigger a barrier we place between ourselves and Russia the better. The more countries that are bought into the European family the better our security will be. Their increasing prosperity will bring us new markets. Co-operation and common goals are always better than conflicts and disparate visions. We will maintain higher standards together and negotiate better trade deals from strength. Standing up to the USA under Trump is so much more easily done as part of the EU than not. Don't anyone be fooled by Trump's "offer" to us. He want's us out and then for the EU to implode so the USA can start to milk the European countries, for instance on drug prices. He won't be doing us any favours. He will start on us.

All guess work from you again.
That explanation is so broad its unbelievable.
Nothing specific about why remaining is better than leaving.
I think change scares you and that is the sole reason you dont want to leave.
You must sleep with the light on cuddling your teddy bear humming to yourself so as not to hear the floorboards creaking.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Nov 19 10.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Farage was already making statements prior to the result being declared that the "fight would continue"

Farage is a politician. Most people would have accepted the result either way.
It is only fanatics and activists like you who haven't.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 Nov 19 9.39am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

So the Tories have now unveiled more money for people on benefits and state pension. This is on top of more money for the NHS and the police amongst other announcements.

Yup that Boris is definitely a swivel eyed right wing fanatic.

Of course Labour denounce this as a cynical bribe to the voters whilst unveiling their own spending plans which some might say are a "cynical bribe to the voters".

Whatever else Boris is if you look at his record apart from Brexit he is a middle of the road one nation Tory.

Meanwhile Jezza is staging a bit of a come back as the Tory lead starts to slip this is not surprising as it was so large that was bound to happen.

As I have said previously it's not the overall percentage lead that will matter its the key marginals and how much tactical voting has an impact that will win the election.

Still all to play for.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 Nov 19 9.46am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Meanwhile in Scotland Wee Jimmy Cranky is ramping up the "braveheart" vote. It's a pity that this will be the dominant issue in Scotland rather than the SNP's appalling record in government.

I can fully understand a Scots person who wants independence but doesn't want the SNP.

The SNP have been "getting away with it" for years as the electorate up there don't seem too bothered that the SNP couldn't run a corner shop.

I like the Scots but part of me wants them to get independence because they will screw it up and then have to come back to the rest of us with a begging bowl.

"We want our independence we are tired of being dictated to by a remote and uncaring government in London. So we want to be run by an even more remote and uncaring government in Brussels or is it Berlin I forget."

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 03 Nov 19 10.05am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Meanwhile in Scotland Wee Jimmy Cranky is ramping up the "braveheart" vote. It's a pity that this will be the dominant issue in Scotland rather than the SNP's appalling record in government.

I can fully understand a Scots person who wants independence but doesn't want the SNP.

The SNP have been "getting away with it" for years as the electorate up there don't seem too bothered that the SNP couldn't run a corner shop.

I like the Scots but part of me wants them to get independence because they will screw it up and then have to come back to the rest of us with a begging bowl.

"We want our independence we are tired of being dictated to by a remote and uncaring government in London. So we want to be run by an even more remote and uncaring government in Brussels or is it Berlin I forget."

No it is Edinburgh their seat of government and just like any country in the EU or out they should run themselves.

How anybody can possibly want to be run by Westminster is beyond me.

Have to let them go, and Northern Ireland getting closer to a united Ireland according to the polls.

If we want to commit national suicide we can hardly blame them for wanting out.

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 03 Nov 19 11.09am Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

where is the like button?

It's next to the ignore button.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Nov 19 11.27am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20


How anybody can possibly want to be run by Westminster is beyond me.

Have to let them go, and Northern Ireland getting closer to a united Ireland according to the polls.


I think that we would love to let Northern Ireland leave the UK as it's a bigger financial burden on us than the EU

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 03 Nov 19 11.34am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I think that we would love to let Northern Ireland leave the UK as it's a bigger financial burden on us than the EU

Who’s ‘we’ in this sense?

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 03 Nov 19 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Who’s ‘we’ in this sense?

'Yous'

 


Pro USA & Israel

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