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W12 19 Nov 19 8.24pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If Corbyn gets in he's going to open up immigration like never before. These are the statistics on immigration to the UK.

Minorities always vote majority left and in higher numbers the more culturally diverse...for example of the BAME migrants who could vote, only 19 percent voted Tory in 2017....The Tories need to wake up and stop listening to the 'ism' mob.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2019 6.35pm)

Utter madness isn’t it

And looking at this debate are these really the two (and Swinson) really the best leaders we can come up with?

What an embarrassment

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Nov 19 8.41pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Utter madness isn’t it

And looking at this debate are these really the two (and Swinson) really the best leaders we can come up with?

What an embarrassment

I'm now seeing why May avoided a TV debate
It will be a lefty media stitch up.

 

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W12 19 Nov 19 8.48pm

“Invest in the NHS”

How many times have I heard that.

Like it’s going to make money and not just be a huge honey pot for the 3rd world.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Nov 19 8.54pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Corbyn answers questions like a Miss World contestant.

 

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deleted user Flag 19 Nov 19 8.58pm

The 5 seconds for a snappy answer format is beyond tired.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Nov 19 10.05pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Didn't watch it, the pundits are saying if you vote Labour Corbyn won if you vote Tory Johnson won so no knock out blows.

Sounds like we learned nothing new.

 


One more point

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deleted user Flag 19 Nov 19 10.19pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Didn't watch it, the pundits are saying if you vote Labour Corbyn won if you vote Tory Johnson won so no knock out blows.

Sounds like we learned nothing new.

Yes, with this format and the constant interruptions it's all but impossible to learn anything anyway. One of the questions they spent longest on was, I kid you not, what Christmas present would you buy for each other.

I'd call it a draw, which realistically is probably a win for Corbyn due to his relative unpopularity compared to Boris. Though the Conservatives have a very healthy lead and so in the big picture I don't think it changes anything.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Nov 19 11.21pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

It was sh1te. Boring and badly planned and managed.

I’ve just caught the 2nd half of the 30 minutes leaders special on BBC1 hosted by Fiona Bruce with farage taking abuse from frothing liberals in the audience. Quite good viewing with him dealing with their false accusations and mixing up stats he quoted earlier.

 


COYP

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Nov 19 7.39am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I doubt there’s anyone in the electorate split between Tory/Labour so there’s little point letting them have it out one on one. Everyone watching will have their mind made up on at least one of Boris and Corbyn, such is the polarising nature of their personalities, so who is the debate actually for?

Substance will be entirely irrelevant to the discussion, as you’d expect in a country where Boris Johnson will soon be elected PM.

I am a Tory and always have been but whilst I think that Boris makes a better orator than Corbyn I do have concerns about his substance as it doesn't seem to extend beyond his catchphrase "get Brexit done"

I couldn't bring myself to vote for Corbyn, Swinson is a nutjob that seems clueless about the real world and the Greens can't even run Brighton Council successfully let alone a country so it looks like I will have to vote for Boris by default

 

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jeeagles Flag 20 Nov 19 8.50am

Originally posted by dollardays

Yes, with this format and the constant interruptions it's all but impossible to learn anything anyway. One of the questions they spent longest on was, I kid you not, what Christmas present would you buy for each other.

I'd call it a draw, which realistically is probably a win for Corbyn due to his relative unpopularity compared to Boris. Though the Conservatives have a very healthy lead and so in the big picture I don't think it changes anything.

Thought Boris really wiped the floor with Corbyn.

Corbyn's insistence on not committing what side he'd stand for in a second referendum shows how indecisive and disingenuous he its. All this stories about the NHS and his administration for the UN General secretary can bore off. I'm tired of hearing what a nice guy he is, I'd like someone to run the country. Notice how a question came in about Christmas gifts and showing generosity to people who disagree with you, and Corbyn's first instinct was to call Boris scrouge.

Thought Boris missed a trick when he was attacked about how long it would take to do a deal with the US and EU, Corbyn is saying that he can renegotiate a deal that's taken 3 years to put together in 6 months on one hand, yet saying negotiations with other countries will be impossible.

For me, Boris has already won the neutral vote.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 20 Nov 19 9.13am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I am a Tory and always have been but whilst I think that Boris makes a better orator than Corbyn I do have concerns about his substance as it doesn't seem to extend beyond his catchphrase "get Brexit done"

But Brexit is the default narrative. I loathe Johnson on a variety of levels and have a great deal of sympathy for much of what even the most vomit inducing Soc.lib Remainer Retard has to say about him but the reality is that Brexit is the only question any potential voter has to decide upon.

You want it done, then a Tory win is what you want. Personally I would love to see a hung Parliament with the Brexit Party holding the keys to the kingdom but that is unfortunately unlikely.

You either believe that the vote on June 23rd 2016 has to be honoured or you do not. That 17.4 million votes have to matter. That 52 beats 48 as a %. In short that if the British public are told a result will be honoured then that needs to matter. To count. To have a validity.

Now I am in no doubt that Johnson wanted Remain to win. That he backed Leave by way of his f***ed up hubris driven ambition with some clever strategy no doubt inspired by the actions of an obscure Greek or Roman classicist. In short, Johnson is the utter w***er that many people believe he is. But, and this is the f***ed up reality, he is the best chance we have of leaving the EU.

Hence why I want him to win. Not because I like the b****** or even trust him to deliver but because, as things stand, he is the best bet.

And I hate f***ing gambling.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 20 Nov 19 9.30am Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Thought Boris really wiped the floor with Corbyn.

Corbyn's insistence on not committing what side he'd stand for in a second referendum shows how indecisive and disingenuous he its. All this stories about the NHS and his administration for the UN General secretary can bore off. I'm tired of hearing what a nice guy he is, I'd like someone to run the country. Notice how a question came in about Christmas gifts and showing generosity to people who disagree with you, and Corbyn's first instinct was to call Boris scrouge.

Thought Boris missed a trick when he was attacked about how long it would take to do a deal with the US and EU, Corbyn is saying that he can renegotiate a deal that's taken 3 years to put together in 6 months on one hand, yet saying negotiations with other countries will be impossible.

For me, Boris has already won the neutral vote.

Agreed

 

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