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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Jan 20 9.49am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I see Rebecca Long Baily has taken onboard the results of the last GE, NOT.

Ms Long-Bailey declares: "Our task is to build a winning vision of a socialist future, and this task has never been more urgent.

"Many candidates in the leadership election say they will not return to the triangulation and Tory-lite policies that held our party back before Jeremy. But we need a leader that can be trusted with our socialist agenda.

Wow so before Corbyn Labour was unelectable who'd have thought that and then Jeremy came along and put all to rights okay so he lost 2 elections but whose counting.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 20 9.58am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I guess Long Bailey isn't very good at taking electoral hints.

But the membership might just vote for it.

Fun, fun, fun.

 


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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 07 Jan 20 10.46am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I guess Long Bailey isn't very good at taking electoral hints.

But the membership might just vote for it.

Fun, fun, fun.

Got to be worth a pony then.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 20 11.15am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Got to be worth a pony then.

Always bet on the black guy.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Jan 20 11.26am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Keir Starmer 5/6
Rebecca Long-Bailey 5/2
Lisa Nandy 8/1 - 10/1
Jess Philips 12/1 - 14/1
Clive Lewis 25/1 - 33/1
Emily Thornberry 50/1 - 80/1 or 5/1 to eat them all. 4/6 to insult traditional Labour voters with sneering comments.

I suppose they’re only going to hold and bring the different sections of the party back together again, but the 2 favourites? Really? KS might cause labour north to stay blue and RLB might keep people doubting their vision, or unplanned bundle of policies continually growing, aren’t possible. But she’s probably the better to achieve what they need to do, however, the odds are the market’s prediction on who’ll become leader so that tells us all we need to know. The better options if Lisa Nandy and Jess Philips aren’t in the running.

I suppose the timeframe to bring the party together is 8-10 years anyway.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 07 Jan 20 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Keir Starmer 5/6
Rebecca Long-Bailey 5/2
Lisa Nandy 8/1 - 10/1
Jess Philips 12/1 - 14/1
Clive Lewis 25/1 - 33/1
Emily Thornberry 50/1 - 80/1 or 5/1 to eat them all. 4/6 to insult traditional Labour voters with sneering comments.

I suppose they’re only going to hold and bring the different sections of the party back together again, but the 2 favourites? Really? KS might cause labour north to stay blue and RLB might keep people doubting their vision, or unplanned bundle of policies continually growing, aren’t possible. But she’s probably the better to achieve what they need to do, however, the odds are the market’s prediction on who’ll become leader so that tells us all we need to know. The better options if Lisa Nandy and Jess Philips aren’t in the running.

I suppose the timeframe to bring the party together is 8-10 years anyway.

I see the Tory Press is supporting Jess Philips to try to split the Starmer vote. He scares them. They want someone unelectable in like Long-Bailey.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 20 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Keir Starmer 5/6
Rebecca Long-Bailey 5/2
Lisa Nandy 8/1 - 10/1
Jess Philips 12/1 - 14/1
Clive Lewis 25/1 - 33/1
Emily Thornberry 50/1 - 80/1 or 5/1 to eat them all. 4/6 to insult traditional Labour voters with sneering comments.

I suppose they’re only going to hold and bring the different sections of the party back together again, but the 2 favourites? Really? KS might cause labour north to stay blue and RLB might keep people doubting their vision, or unplanned bundle of policies continually growing, aren’t possible. But she’s probably the better to achieve what they need to do, however, the odds are the market’s prediction on who’ll become leader so that tells us all we need to know. The better options if Lisa Nandy and Jess Philips aren’t in the running.

I suppose the timeframe to bring the party together is 8-10 years anyway.

Being serious the two blokes are the only sensible options there.

Starmer is a star mentally and by far the brightest among the contenders and Lewis has charisma.

The female options are truly awful...though to be fair I don't know anything about Lisa Nandy....Still, the other options are hilarious....about electable as Kim Jong-un.

Man hating Jess Phillips.....Yes please....Long John Bailey..'Socialism me hearties'..yummy yum.....'White van man' Thornberry.......recks of the Islington set and has as much in common with Labour's lost voters as she does with a salad option.


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Lost North labour voters will have to be frustrated and angry again to vote for a London elite leader again like everyone suggesting Starmer is saying they voted for Boris. Most I hear saying Starmer and it doesn’t have to be from pigeon racing country are usually from the Home Counties.

I expect it’ll eventually be a case of wanting the Tories out rather than wanting a version of labour in so in 8-10 years time it’ll be if or when Boris loses his appeal or can’t keep satisfying the whole economic political spectrum.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Jan 20 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Lost North labour voters will have to be frustrated and angry again to vote for a London elite leader again like everyone suggesting Starmer is saying they voted for Boris. Most I hear saying Starmer and it doesn’t have to be from pigeon racing country are usually from the Home Counties.

I expect it’ll eventually be a case of wanting the Tories out rather than wanting a version of labour in so in 8-10 years time it’ll be if or when Boris loses his appeal or can’t keep satisfying the whole economic political spectrum.

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This is what happens when you push identity politics. So far I have heard leading Labour heavyweights say it must be a woman or a northerner, I have not heard calls for an ethnic candidate but I might have missed that.

Last time I looked Boris wasn't a woman nor did he have a flat cap and kept whippets yet somehow he managed to get them oop north to vote Tory. It's that kind of arrogance (northerners will only vote for northerners) that offends people.

I suspect that most people including northerners would prefer a straight talking politician who can connect with the people and understands their real concerns.

Northerners didn't vote for Corbyn because he was from Islington but because he's priorities seemed to be about stuff that ordinary folk didn't care about. They also know BS when they see it and know that any politician that says it's free means they have to pay for it eventually.

 


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jeeagles Flag 07 Jan 20 7.01pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Lost North labour voters will have to be frustrated and angry again to vote for a London elite leader again like everyone suggesting Starmer is saying they voted for Boris. Most I hear saying Starmer and it doesn’t have to be from pigeon racing country are usually from the Home Counties.

I expect it’ll eventually be a case of wanting the Tories out rather than wanting a version of labour in so in 8-10 years time it’ll be if or when Boris loses his appeal or can’t keep satisfying the whole economic political spectrum.

They voted for Boris and Blair. They'll vote for Starmer too.

What they dont want is some middle class prick who's never done a honest days work in his life but claims to be on the side of the working man just because he's a scruff bag with a beard and a fetish for Dianne Abbot.

 

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They’ll come back to vote for staunch remain Keir Starmer? Maybe if and when Brexit is well under way and the fact he and others tried everything possible to prevent it. He does however share some views, or feels the frustration people have with high levels of immigration so that’s in his armour. But if people think that the person doesn’t matter then they have very short memories. It matters every election, including one last month. The Northern women candidates (Jess Philips and Lisa Nandy) could win back the northern vote, the national female vote and the cosmopolitan city vote is pretty much safe labour now so doesn’t matter. Boris got the northern vote because they were bloody angry and felt betrayed, that’s it.

It’s all probably academic because the next election is already a tory win unless world and economic events topple them off their majority.

And has Rebecca Long-Bailey ever cracked a smile or made anyone else smile or laugh? Looks the typical bitter ugly bint. Not sure she’ll inspire enough people.

 


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