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 Stirlingsays  14 Nov 19 2.07am |
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Direct election interference from Donald Tusk. This kind of thing happens all the time now, left or right. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2019 2.08am)
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 becky over the moon 14 Nov 19 5.41am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Judge. There is also a link between the ages of starting work - my day used to be 15/16, now minimum 18 and if you go to uni 21/22 so later starting to pay tax/NIC
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| W12 14 Nov 19 6.40am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Judge. Everyone will be negatively affected by the next Labour government whether it is Corbyn or whoever. It would be nothing like what happened in the 70’s and Blair has laid the groundwork for this. It would entirely destroy our country if that hasn’t already happened anyway. Take a walk down the Uxbridge road and it looks like it’s too late to avoid this.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 14 Nov 19 8.19am |
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Originally posted by becky
There is also a link between the ages of starting work - my day used to be 15/16, now minimum 18 and if you go to uni 21/22 so later starting to pay tax/NIC Well said Becky, start work at 15 retire at 65 and die at 70, that was how the state pension was planned. Today people live longer and in retirement are entitled to benefits in addition to the state pension. In short we are all costing the taxpayer more money. As Tux is fond of saying it's a Ponzi scheme.
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| Matov 14 Nov 19 8.42am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Direct election interference from Donald Tusk. This kind of thing happens all the time now, left or right. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2019 2.08am) Just the way of the world. I always like to think that Obama's intervention in 2016 was one of the things that swung it for the Leave side. And I loved Tusk's comments about how us Leavers are hankering for 'Empire'. LOL. Especially given what Guy van Hofstadt said recently. Surely the point of us leaving the EU is that we don't want to be part of an 'Empire'. Let us hope for more interventions like this. All helpful. Edited by Matov (14 Nov 2019 8.43am)
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| Spiderman Horsham 14 Nov 19 9.25am |
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Originally posted by Jway89
Not to pick on you, but, this is the problem right? We seem to view politics as a match of football, where we support a team no matter what. Boris did win London twice, but what did he actually do? Not just him, I'm not sure I can actually name a thing of note any London Mayor has done. This is why I try not to read newspapers and watch things like Question Time, because there's never any in depth discussion on the matters and because papers like The Sun were Labour through and through and now they're full on Conservative. The Mirror is the reverse. How can you honestly switch your views so drastically? I've seen a better attempt in forums like this one, although not always successfully, to try and discuss issues. Have you visited London since he was Mayor? He improved the transport system no end (especially bus service) IMO
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| Spiderman Horsham 14 Nov 19 9.29am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
We need to vote this council out. Horsham have just started building another 2750 homes on green belt land and are seriously considering allowing a 12 storey high incinerator to be built as well.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Nov 19 9.33am |
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Originally posted by Matov
Just the way of the world. I always like to think that Obama's intervention in 2016 was one of the things that swung it for the Leave side. And I loved Tusk's comments about how us Leavers are hankering for 'Empire'. LOL. Especially given what Guy van Hofstadt said recently. Surely the point of us leaving the EU is that we don't want to be part of an 'Empire'. Let us hope for more interventions like this. All helpful. Edited by Matov (14 Nov 2019 8.43am) Yep, plus advertising of what Labour's conference voted for to be their policies in respect of immigration...This needs to be front and centre in all Labour's northern heartlands. Maintain and extend free movement rights Close all detention centres End “no recourse to public funds” policies Scrap all Hostile Environment measures… and restrictions on migrants’ NHS access Extend equal rights to vote to all UK residents regardless of nationality Oppose the current immigration legislation and any curbing of rights Campaign for free movement, equality and rights for migrants Reject any immigration system based on incomes, migrants’ utility to business, and number caps/targets Ensure unconditional right to family reunion
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| chris123 hove actually 14 Nov 19 9.34am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Have you visited London since he was Mayor? He improved the transport system no end (especially bus service) IMO But apart from the transport and buses, sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what has Boris ever done for us?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 14 Nov 19 9.58am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep, plus advertising of what Labour's conference voted for to be their policies in respect of immigration...This needs to be front and centre in all Labour's northern heartlands. Maintain and extend free movement rights Close all detention centres End “no recourse to public funds” policies Scrap all Hostile Environment measures… and restrictions on migrants’ NHS access Extend equal rights to vote to all UK residents regardless of nationality Oppose the current immigration legislation and any curbing of rights Campaign for free movement, equality and rights for migrants Reject any immigration system based on incomes, migrants’ utility to business, and number caps/targets Ensure unconditional right to family reunion Does anyone know how many other democratic western countries allow non citizens full voting rights? Most allow voting for local councils, the dog catcher etc. but I would be surprised if many allow votes in National elections? It's shameful gerrymandering if we are going to play that game then the Tories should bring back the extra business vote.
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| Midlands Eagle 14 Nov 19 10.11am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
If labour get in power they will raise tax for the top 5% of earners. Then they will all naff off to foreign climes just like they did in the seventies when Labour thought that could tax people until the pips squeaked with some people expected to pay 98%
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| Midlands Eagle 14 Nov 19 10.12am |
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Originally posted by Matov
I thought that "Leavers" were trying to get away from the Empire
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