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View Littlebogreek's Profile Littlebogreek Flag 04 Dec 19 4.04pm Send a Private Message to Littlebogreek Add Littlebogreek as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

you have got to be joking...if hes one of the best, the others must be totally s***e..we had 6 fouls 3 bookings (maybe 4) Bournemouth 16 fouls 1 booking and you think he was fair???

Edited by the silurian (04 Dec 2019 3.49pm)

They actually had 3 bookings I think. But agree, thought he had a game best described as inconsistent.

At the game I thought red card and no pen, watched the highlights and then thought both could have gone either way.

For what it's worth, appaently the VAR report said that had either of those decisions gone the other way (a yellow card or a penalty) those decisions would also have been upheld, so effectively they were both 50/50 decisions that we were on the wrong end of but in real time understandably so. Had the referee have erred on the side of caution with the red and allowed VAR to do its job then he stays on the pitch. That said, it wasn't these that I disagreed with at the time, just felt he was very inconsistent in what he gave and what he didn't.

 

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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Norfolk 04 Dec 19 4.20pm Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

I'll never come to terms with the notion that if a player is tripped or pushed, the determining factor as to whether it's a foul is whether he "goes down too easily". If a player trips or pushes an opponent, he does it with the aim of impeding his progress - which is illegal and should therefore be penalised, whatever happens to the fouled player (unless advantage is being played).

You're quite right, unless the laws have changed (Willo?). It's all about the intent of the fouler, not the foulee. If a foul is committed with intent it shouldn't make any difference how the player fouled reacts.

So, penalty for me, but by not giving it at least those herberts from tw4tford can pipe down about Wilf getting pens easily.

Edited by Sansbup (04 Dec 2019 4.22pm)

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 04 Dec 19 4.23pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Littlebogreek

They actually had 3 bookings I think. But agree, thought he had a game best described as inconsistent.

At the game I thought red card and no pen, watched the highlights and then thought both could have gone either way.

For what it's worth, appaently the VAR report said that had either of those decisions gone the other way (a yellow card or a penalty) those decisions would also have been upheld, so effectively they were both 50/50 decisions that we were on the wrong end of but in real time understandably so. Had the referee have erred on the side of caution with the red and allowed VAR to do its job then he stays on the pitch. That said, it wasn't these that I disagreed with at the time, just felt he was very inconsistent in what he gave and what he didn't.

If the push on the Livarpool player was enough to get our perfectly good goal chalked off, then the push on Zaha was most certainly enough to give us a penalty....no one expects perfection in referees, just consistency and not favouring VVD because he plays for Livarpool when ignoring loads of fouls onn Zaha because he plays for Palace.....Taylor was Bournmouths 12 th man last night, couldnt wait to get his red card out for Sakho while ignoring loads of fouls by Billings amongst others...no consistency at all, which leads people to believe there is favouritism and possibly corruption

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 04 Dec 19 4.27pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Sansbup

You're quite right, unless the laws have changed (Willo?). It's all about the intent of the fouler, not the foulee. If a foul is committed with intent it shouldn't make any difference how the player fouled reacts.

So, penalty for me, but by not giving it at least those herberts from tw4tford can pipe down about Wilf getting pens easily.

Edited by Sansbup (04 Dec 2019 4.22pm)

They will be on his case from minute 1, and WILL influence Atkinsons decision making, Wilf will get nothing other than a booking as soon as he protests about being kicked all over the park.....remember the thug Deeney admitting they go out to kick Wilf out of the game, rotating fouls thus avoiding being booked

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 04 Dec 19 4.29pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by Sansbup


So, penalty for me, but by not giving it at least those herberts from tw4tford can pipe down about Wilf getting pens easily.

Edited by Sansbup (04 Dec 2019 4.22pm)

Good luck with that!

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 04 Dec 19 5.06pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

I'll never come to terms with the notion that if a player is tripped or pushed, the determining factor as to whether it's a foul is whether he "goes down too easily". If a player trips or pushes an opponent, he does it with the aim of impeding his progress - which is illegal and should therefore be penalised, whatever happens to the fouled player (unless advantage is being played).

I don't *think* the law has changed, but the 'Shoulder to Shoulder' Challenge as far as i'm aware is the only contact 'allowed' - i.e. stated in the rules - in a game of football.. So with this in mind this is where the strength comes in. With a fair Shoulder challenge you can knock your opponent off the ball. It's another murky area of the rules of football.
obviously I think the shoulder to shoulder bit has expanded rather over the years.

 


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View peterg's Profile peterg Flag Anerley 04 Dec 19 5.30pm Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

Well, Wilf was pushed with an arm rather than shoulder to shoulder, and then he was tripped. So it should have been a pen. However I can still see why it wasn't given and why VAR didn't think it was wrong enough to be overturned.
I thought the Sakho impact looked far worse than it was and that the Bournemouth player made the most of it. But again I can see why it was called as a red.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 04 Dec 19 6.11pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

I'll never come to terms with the notion that if a player is tripped or pushed, the determining factor as to whether it's a foul is whether he "goes down too easily". If a player trips or pushes an opponent, he does it with the aim of impeding his progress - which is illegal and should therefore be penalised, whatever happens to the fouled player (unless advantage is being played).

you can be knocked off the ball without being tripped or pushed.

 


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View Littlebogreek's Profile Littlebogreek Flag 04 Dec 19 6.13pm Send a Private Message to Littlebogreek Add Littlebogreek as a friend

Absolutely agree - no one expects perfection but consistency in decision making during each game is a small thing to ask. It all does bring up a lot of questions on how VAR is used too - I think if the referee goes to a screen and sees the push, he changes his mind and awards a penalty

Originally posted by the silurian


If the push on the Livarpool player was enough to get our perfectly good goal chalked off, then the push on Zaha was most certainly enough to give us a penalty....no one expects perfection in referees, just consistency and not favouring VVD because he plays for Livarpool when ignoring loads of fouls onn Zaha because he plays for Palace.....Taylor was Bournmouths 12 th man last night, couldnt wait to get his red card out for Sakho while ignoring loads of fouls by Billings amongst others...no consistency at all, which leads people to believe there is favouritism and possibly corruption

 

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View Littlebogreek's Profile Littlebogreek Flag 04 Dec 19 6.20pm Send a Private Message to Littlebogreek Add Littlebogreek as a friend

It's no coinicidence that VAR comes in and Watford are rock bottom. they can't use those tactics as much now and definitley not in the area.


Originally posted by the silurian

They will be on his case from minute 1, and WILL influence Atkinsons decision making, Wilf will get nothing other than a booking as soon as he protests about being kicked all over the park.....remember the thug Deeney admitting they go out to kick Wilf out of the game, rotating fouls thus avoiding being booked

 

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 04 Dec 19 6.26pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by Littlebogreek

They actually had 3 bookings I think. But agree, thought he had a game best described as inconsistent.

At the game I thought red card and no pen, watched the highlights and then thought both could have gone either way.

For what it's worth, appaently the VAR report said that had either of those decisions gone the other way (a yellow card or a penalty) those decisions would also have been upheld, so effectively they were both 50/50 decisions that we were on the wrong end of but in real time understandably so. Had the referee have erred on the side of caution with the red and allowed VAR to do its job then he stays on the pitch. That said, it wasn't these that I disagreed with at the time, just felt he was very inconsistent in what he gave and what he didn't.

I personally thought that it was a red and a penalty. As the ref didn't give the latter then why didn't he book Wilf for diving. From where I was standing in the Holmesdale lower and right in line with his run this was as a blatant a penalty as there could be.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Dec 19 6.46pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

From where I stood that was a heavily biased ref

In the first half multiple fouls against us waved away.

It looked like Wilf should have had a penalty late on. Frustrating

Totally agree, he never gives Wilf a thing. Looked like more of a push (and stood on his ankle) than Ayew on Lovren.....oh wait that was for Liverpool

 

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