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Rachid Rachid Rachid 08 Dec 19 12.04am
Even Shearer was moderately amused that someone who spends most of their time using extreme gamesmanship would be crying for the penalty. Deeney sounding a bit desperate.
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Even Shearer was moderately amused that someone who spends most of their time using extreme gamesmanship would be crying for the penalty. Deeney sounding a bit desperate.

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 08 Dec 19 12.48am
typical jaded performance after the midweek game, i've seen us fall apart in these type of games. Clean sheet and a point is what we got and we need to understand that's plan b - it's just fine. watford can't play football at the best of times, their game plan, stop the oppo from playing and we all all know how they know how to stop, effect zaha. The deeney incident, i have seen them be given and with VAR lurking it's literally squeeky bum time when stuff like that occurs. If that was againt liverpool etc it would have been a VAR penalty without doubt. This was once a quality forum....
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vancouver/croydon 08 Dec 19 12.48am

typical jaded performance after the midweek game, i've seen us fall apart in these type of games.
Clean sheet and a point is what we got and we need to understand that's plan b - it's just fine.

watford can't play football at the best of times, their game plan, stop the oppo from playing and we all all know how they know how to stop, effect zaha.

The deeney incident, i have seen them be given and with VAR lurking it's literally squeeky bum time when stuff like that occurs. If that was againt liverpool etc it would have been a VAR penalty without doubt.

This was once a quality forum....

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deleted user 08 Dec 19 1.31am
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Where do we have to be before you show even the merest smidge of appreciation? Agreed. None of us are shy of a gripe or two, but let's not elevate it to the point where we detract from what's been a successful season so far all things considered. At the start of the season we'd have taken top half in a heartbeat.
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08 Dec 19 1.31am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Where do we have to be before you show even the merest smidge of appreciation?

Agreed. None of us are shy of a gripe or two, but let's not elevate it to the point where we detract from what's been a successful season so far all things considered. At the start of the season we'd have taken top half in a heartbeat.

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Harry Beever Newbury 08 Dec 19 6.42am
Originally posted by PatrickA One further point. Yes, Zaha was petulant today but he was severely provoked. If there was one game I could bring Jedi and Delaney back for it would be Watford. They would not stand for any nonsense. You can understand him losing his rag when he�s constantly being hacked down, preventing him from playing his game and the ref then books him. Sometimes it helps him though didn�t think so yesterday. Really really dislike Capoue, marginally more than Deeney.
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Newbury 08 Dec 19 6.42am

Originally posted by PatrickA

One further point.
Yes, Zaha was petulant today but he was severely provoked.
If there was one game I could bring Jedi and Delaney back for it would be Watford.
They would not stand for any nonsense.

You can understand him losing his rag when he�s constantly being hacked down, preventing him from playing his game and the ref then books him. Sometimes it helps him though didn�t think so yesterday. Really really dislike Capoue, marginally more than Deeney.

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dreamwaverider London 08 Dec 19 8.17am
Originally posted by grumpymort So you think it's fine for player to wrap his arms around another and then force them to the ground it was a stone wall pen Watford have not improved greatly at all you are making up even more rubbish they only had 3 shots on target all game. Being physical doesn't matter if they want to be silly like they did you exploit it and you keep winning freekicks then punish them with them Palace don't do this no brain football is Palace issue. WHat do you expect from Kelly the guy is a center back yes when he was younger he played at that right position but it was a differ style back then also that was with much better quality players. The whole team was poor excluding the keeper we should be ripping these apart yet same old dull defensive football trying to keep the ball when we are poor on the ball so end up giving it away. We had 3 shots all game how is that acceptable to the team that is bottom of the league
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Originally posted by grumpymort

So you think it's fine for player to wrap his arms around another and then force them to the ground it was a stone wall pen

Watford have not improved greatly at all you are making up even more rubbish they only had 3 shots on target all game.

Being physical doesn't matter if they want to be silly like they did you exploit it and you keep winning freekicks then punish them with them Palace don't do this no brain football is Palace issue.

WHat do you expect from Kelly the guy is a center back yes when he was younger he played at that right position but it was a differ style back then also that was with much better quality players.

The whole team was poor excluding the keeper we should be ripping these apart yet same old dull defensive football trying to keep the ball when we are poor on the ball so end up giving it away.

We had 3 shots all game how is that acceptable to the team that is bottom of the league

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dreamwaverider London 08 Dec 19 8.25am
Originally posted by grumpymort So you think it's fine for player to wrap his arms around another and then force them to the ground it was a stone wall pen Watford have not improved greatly at all you are making up even more rubbish they only had 3 shots on target all game. Being physical doesn't matter if they want to be silly like they did you exploit it and you keep winning freekicks then punish them with them Palace don't do this no brain football is Palace issue. WHat do you expect from Kelly the guy is a center back yes when he was younger he played at that right position but it was a differ style back then also that was with much better quality players. The whole team was poor excluding the keeper we should be ripping these apart yet same old dull defensive football trying to keep the ball when we are poor on the ball so end up giving it away. We had 3 shots all game how is that acceptable to the team that is bottom of the league Considering all that and playing a bunch of thugs fully supported by some awful refereeing I was very happy to leave with a point. Watford know of old how to rile Wilf and get away with it. If Zaha is guilty of anything it is not learning that this is how teams disable him. Cheat, wind him up, constantly Niggle him and he will blow. Happens every time. It was like watching him last season at Southampton. He even clapped the ref for his booking which at the saints got him a red. I reckon that is what Roy was saying to him. But even after all the abuse from Watford he still shone. A point was a great result from a poor game
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London 08 Dec 19 8.25am

Originally posted by grumpymort

So you think it's fine for player to wrap his arms around another and then force them to the ground it was a stone wall pen

Watford have not improved greatly at all you are making up even more rubbish they only had 3 shots on target all game.

Being physical doesn't matter if they want to be silly like they did you exploit it and you keep winning freekicks then punish them with them Palace don't do this no brain football is Palace issue.

WHat do you expect from Kelly the guy is a center back yes when he was younger he played at that right position but it was a differ style back then also that was with much better quality players.

The whole team was poor excluding the keeper we should be ripping these apart yet same old dull defensive football trying to keep the ball when we are poor on the ball so end up giving it away.

We had 3 shots all game how is that acceptable to the team that is bottom of the league

Considering all that and playing a bunch of thugs fully supported by some awful refereeing I was very happy to leave with a point. Watford know of old how to rile Wilf and get away with it. If Zaha is guilty of anything it is not learning that this is how teams disable him. Cheat, wind him up, constantly Niggle him and he will blow. Happens every time. It was like watching him last season at Southampton. He even clapped the ref for his booking which at the saints got him a red.
I reckon that is what Roy was saying to him. But even after all the abuse from Watford he still shone. A point was a great result from a poor game

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dreamwaverider London 08 Dec 19 8.36am
Ayew had our best chance. He was clearly tripped before he shot. he blazed over because he was off balance from the trip. Jordan doesn�t miss from there!! So why didn�t the ref use VAR and give a penalty. There was no advantage? If Ayew had dived he would have got a penalty but I am so glad he didn�t and went for the shot. True sportsman. So the ref and football ignore all that and let Watford get away with no pen. Well that just sums up how refs expect players to dive. That was such a clear trip. Shocking from the men in black. Edited by dreamwaverider (08 Dec 2019 8.37am)
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Ayew had our best chance. He was clearly tripped before he shot. he blazed over because he was off balance from the trip. Jordan doesn�t miss from there!!
So why didn�t the ref use VAR and give a penalty. There was no advantage? If Ayew had dived he would have got a penalty but I am so glad he didn�t and went for the shot. True sportsman.
So the ref and football ignore all that and let Watford get away with no pen. Well that just sums up how refs expect players to dive. That was such a clear trip.
Shocking from the men in black.

Edited by dreamwaverider (08 Dec 2019 8.37am)

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PZ Eagle Penzance 08 Dec 19 8.47am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Ayew had our best chance. He was clearly tripped before he shot. he blazed over because he was off balance from the trip. Jordan doesn�t miss from there!! So why didn�t the ref use VAR and give a penalty. There was no advantage? If Ayew had dived he would have got a penalty but I am so glad he didn�t and went for the shot. True sportsman. So the ref and football ignore all that and let Watford get away with no pen. Well that just sums up how refs expect players to dive. That was such a clear trip. Shocking from the men in black. Edited by dreamwaverider (08 Dec 2019 8.37am) Don't think so as Atkinson would have bookd him for diving. Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.
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Penzance 08 Dec 19 8.47am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Ayew had our best chance. He was clearly tripped before he shot. he blazed over because he was off balance from the trip. Jordan doesn�t miss from there!!
So why didn�t the ref use VAR and give a penalty. There was no advantage? If Ayew had dived he would have got a penalty but I am so glad he didn�t and went for the shot. True sportsman.
So the ref and football ignore all that and let Watford get away with no pen. Well that just sums up how refs expect players to dive. That was such a clear trip.
Shocking from the men in black.

Edited by dreamwaverider (08 Dec 2019 8.37am)

Don't think so as Atkinson would have bookd him for diving.

Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

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Superhorns3 Harpdenden 08 Dec 19 9.07am
Originally posted by Vaibow The deeney incident, i have seen them be given and with VAR lurking it's literally squeeky bum time when stuff like that occurs. If that was againt liverpool etc it would have been a VAR penalty without doubt. It doesn't excuse our poor performances generally because we deserve to be bottom but we've come out of the wrong side on VAR a few times this season. Now yesterday was one of those debatable ones but we've had goals against us still given despite clear handballs in the build up by an attacker. As I say its our fault for being rubbish but its been a bit frustrating to potentially miss out on points due to VAR.
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Harpdenden 08 Dec 19 9.07am

Originally posted by Vaibow

It doesn't excuse our poor performances generally because we deserve to be bottom but we've come out of the wrong side on VAR a few times this season.

Now yesterday was one of those debatable ones but we've had goals against us still given despite clear handballs in the build up by an attacker.

As I say its our fault for being rubbish but its been a bit frustrating to potentially miss out on points due to VAR.

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Spiderman Horsham 08 Dec 19 9.24am
Originally posted by Superhorns3 We will simply because we cannot score ! Both teams defended well though . As for Zaha - well we know the story and it's long debated !! Indeed but your lot certainly are tops for thuggery against him. It would be interesting to hear your view on his booking! In case you haven't seen it I have hopefully posted a link [Tweet Link]
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Horsham 08 Dec 19 9.24am

Originally posted by Superhorns3

We will simply because we cannot score !

Both teams defended well though .

As for Zaha - well we know the story and it's long debated !!

Indeed but your lot certainly are tops for thuggery against him. It would be interesting to hear your view on his booking! In case you haven't seen it I have hopefully posted a link

[Tweet Link]

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Superhorns3 Harpdenden 08 Dec 19 9.34am
Must admit our guy certainly did trip up Zaha and then they both went to ground.
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Harpdenden 08 Dec 19 9.34am

Must admit our guy certainly did trip up Zaha and then they both went to ground.

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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 08 Dec 19 9.39am
It makes you wonder what the refs see and don�t see. The fact of the matter is Wilf is the most fouled player in the Premiership and the stats don�t lie. He was booked yesterday for something the ref clearly didn�t see. As for Watford someone needs to tell them this is an entertainments industry which seems to escape them time and again. The reason they are where they are, is their constant rotation of managers and their luck is about to run out. Pearson will be driving their coach to the Championship, and bloody good job too!
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It makes you wonder what the refs see and don�t see. The fact of the matter is Wilf is the most fouled player in the Premiership and the stats don�t lie.

He was booked yesterday for something the ref clearly didn�t see. As for Watford someone needs to tell them this is an entertainments industry which seems to escape them time and again. The reason they are where they are, is their constant rotation of managers and their luck is about to run out. Pearson will be driving their coach to the Championship, and bloody good job too!

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