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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 08 Dec 19 10.09am Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by Harry Beever

You can understand him losing his rag when he’s constantly being hacked down, preventing him from playing his game and the ref then books him. Sometimes it helps him though didn’t think so yesterday. Really really dislike Capoue, marginally more than Deeney.

Unfortunately the fact is that this will happen to Wilf, and referees will not protect him. It's a completely unfair situation to be put in, but that's the reality - and if Wilf can't get up and deal with it, then he can be bullied out of games as we've seen several times. This is one of the reasons why a big club hasn't bid big money for him yet.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 08 Dec 19 11.19am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Bangell

Unfortunately the fact is that this will happen to Wilf, and referees will not protect him. It's a completely unfair situation to be put in, but that's the reality - and if Wilf can't get up and deal with it, then he can be bullied out of games as we've seen several times. This is one of the reasons why a big club hasn't bid big money for him yet.

Let's see how many decisions he gets if/when he moves to a ' big ' club.

I reckon that will change

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 08 Dec 19 11.43am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

It makes you wonder what the refs see and don’t see. The fact of the matter is Wilf is the most fouled player in the Premiership and the stats don’t lie.

He was booked yesterday for something the ref clearly didn’t see. As for Watford someone needs to tell them this is an entertainments industry which seems to escape them time and again. The reason they are where they are, is their constant rotation of managers and their luck is about to run out. Pearson will be driving their coach to the Championship, and bloody good job too!

A thug to run a team of thugs, what a dreadful prospect if you are a Watford fan, or come to think of it any fan forced to watch them play.

 

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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 08 Dec 19 11.47am Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Watched the highlights, there was more physical from Watford than in the Joshua Ruiz fight. What a bunch of thugs. For Deeney to complain about being man handled by Cahill - what about Wilf being wrestled to the ground half a dozen times?

 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 08 Dec 19 12.06pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

I understand that the players were very tired after Tuesday and that Watford had a new manager to impress, BUT failing to have a single shot on target against the bottom team who hadn't won at home for 11 games is simply not good enough. Re Zaha, yes he was targeted again by Watford and had no protection from the ref, but he has to stop allowing himself to get riled by these teams.

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 08 Dec 19 12.11pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Typical responses when we play Watford:

1. They are thugs
2. The referee is biased
3. Wilf provoked and loses it

For goodness sake!
They are bottom, the lowest scorers and we are (temporarily at least) in the top ten - so - hasn't anyone considered this:

We were just not good enough ?

A decent, well coached and advised team would have risen above this.

I am afraid Brighton will show us up again, like they did last season.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 08 Dec 19 12.18pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

I understand that the players were very tired after Tuesday and that Watford had a new manager to impress, BUT failing to have a single shot on target against the bottom team who hadn't won at home for 11 games is simply not good enough. Re Zaha, yes he was targeted again by Watford and had no protection from the ref, but he has to stop allowing himself to get riled by these teams.

Other players like McArthur and Luka do seem to be more readily stepping in these days to intervene when things get heated, but sometimes I wish when you get a player like Capoue someone would just 'accidentally' step on his foot, or 'accidentally' run into him off the ball just to let him know anymore of that sh*t and he'll be hobbling off the pitch. I think if you behave like that you have to expect it back. Sometimes I miss the old days when teams had the attitude of 'You hurt one of ours we hurt one of yours'. I guess there is a darkness in me!

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 08 Dec 19 12.37pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Watford played to their strengths and came away with a point.
This isn't a new tactic and is something we should have been prepared for.

Still respect the clean sheet and the point.

 


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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 08 Dec 19 12.54pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

I understand that the players were very tired after Tuesday and that Watford had a new manager to impress, BUT failing to have a single shot on target against the bottom team who hadn't won at home for 11 games is simply not good enough. Re Zaha, yes he was targeted again by Watford and had no protection from the ref, but he has to stop allowing himself to get riled by these teams.

Looking at the team sheet this is understandable. They were clearly going to target Wilf and show some muscle and knew how we would be set up, like every game we play. Therefore we perhaps needed to throw a curveball in our line up in attack but Roy isn't that type of manager. We will see the same line up against the Weeds. Bottom of the league, no real manager, lacking goals, a shift in our style might of worked and might of been the game to let loose. Even with a makeshift defense we look sound at the back, which earned us a point yesterday. We must surely be the most unbalanced side in the division, in relation to attack and defense. However this season so far we have done far better than what I expected after a fairly modest transfer window to say the least and loss of one of our best players in AWB, who as an aside looked fantastic yesterday for ManUre

 


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Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Other players like McArthur and Luka do seem to be more readily stepping in these days to intervene when things get heated, but sometimes I wish when you get a player like Capoue someone would just 'accidentally' step on his foot, or 'accidentally' run into him off the ball just to let him know anymore of that sh*t and he'll be hobbling off the pitch. I think if you behave like that you have to expect it back. Sometimes I miss the old days when teams had the attitude of 'You hurt one of ours we hurt one of yours'. I guess there is a darkness in me!

It's not darkness it's just a side of the game has been "expunged" - IMO the game has gone too far the other way, the game needs physicality.

I was one of those players - I can still here my Dads words - "let em know your around"..!!

A good strong challenge is equally as uplifting for the team and crowd as a great piece of individual skill or a great pass..!!

But unfortunately IMO it's being eradicated from the game - which is a shame.

I wonder how even the likes of Roy Keane and Steve McMahan would fair today - both good footballers but hard..!!

As for the likes of Vinny Jones - they wouldn't even finish a game..!!

Can you imagine what VAR would make of the infamous Vinny Jones "nuts in hand" incident with Gazza..!! Still brings tears to my eyes..!!

Different times..!!

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 08 Dec 19 12.57pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Typical responses when we play Watford:

1. They are thugs
2. The referee is biased
3. Wilf provoked and loses it

For goodness sake!
They are bottom, the lowest scorers and we are (temporarily at least) in the top ten - so - hasn't anyone considered this:

We were just not good enough ?

A decent, well coached and advised team would have risen above this.

I am afraid Brighton will show us up again, like they did last season.

Yep, Hodgson's doing a shocking job. 8th in the table, having to shuffle the pack because of injuries. 7 points and 3 clean sheets in a week. It's time we got a decent coach in.

 


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Other players like McArthur and Luka do seem to be more readily stepping in these days to intervene when things get heated, but sometimes I wish when you get a player like Capoue someone would just 'accidentally' step on his foot, or 'accidentally' run into him off the ball just to let him know anymore of that sh*t and he'll be hobbling off the pitch. I think if you behave like that you have to expect it back. Sometimes I miss the old days when teams had the attitude of 'You hurt one of ours we hurt one of yours'. I guess there is a darkness in me!

This above is spot on..... we need to dish it out as from the ref there is no retribution

 

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