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 Stirlingsays  19 Dec 19 7.23pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I did not. Find the quote. This is the second time you have said this. You did, I'm not a liar. I'm not going to go through hundreds of posts to satisfy something I know. Would you like me to go over other offensive and dubious things you've said while on here?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Dec 19 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
People vote for the party they want to win.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 19 Dec 19 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
everyone votes FOR the party that they want to win, dont they.?....NO ONE votes AGAINST any party as far as I am aware...you chose your candidate and vote FOR them......Your beloved PR just results in not much getting done! See you Sunday in TRuro?? Many people in the last GE, and for others in the past, make their decision on who and what they dislike least. It was especially so with Corbyn and Johnson as the choice as probable PM. PR would actually get more done but in a different way. It would ensure slow but steady progress. A general consensus would develop about our direction as coalitions became the norm. We would see a series of slightly centre left and slightly centre right governments who largely follow the same direction. We would avoid any more zig zags in which governments spend a lot of time undoing what the previous one did or any long series of one party being in power with only a minority of the electorate having voted for them. Which is what we are now seeing with Labour destroying themselves. PR would be boring and predictable at times. Exciting during the coalition negotiations though and during election campaigns.
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Teddy Eagle Online  19 Dec 19 8.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
A slightly disingenuous point because unless voter turnout was 100% you could always say the same.
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 becky over the moon 19 Dec 19 8.20pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Many people in the last GE, and for others in the past, make their decision on who and what they dislike least. It was especially so with Corbyn and Johnson as the choice as probable PM. PR would actually get more done but in a different way. It would ensure slow but steady progress. A general consensus would develop about our direction as coalitions became the norm. We would see a series of slightly centre left and slightly centre right governments who largely follow the same direction. We would avoid any more zig zags in which governments spend a lot of time undoing what the previous one did or any long series of one party being in power with only a minority of the electorate having voted for them. Which is what we are now seeing with Labour destroying themselves. PR would be boring and predictable at times. Exciting during the coalition negotiations though and during election campaigns. PR would make us end up like Italy - 61 Governments since the end of WWII. They get a heck of a lot done.........
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cryrst  The garden of England 19 Dec 19 8.26pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Many people in the last GE, and for others in the past, make their decision on who and what they dislike least. It was especially so with Corbyn and Johnson as the choice as probable PM. PR would actually get more done but in a different way. It would ensure slow but steady progress. A general consensus would develop about our direction as coalitions became the norm. We would see a series of slightly centre left and slightly centre right governments who largely follow the same direction. We would avoid any more zig zags in which governments spend a lot of time undoing what the previous one did or any long series of one party being in power with only a minority of the electorate having voted for them. Which is what we are now seeing with Labour destroying themselves. PR would be boring and predictable at times. Exciting during the coalition negotiations though and during election campaigns. Who determines the mp for an area then.
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| chris123 hove actually 19 Dec 19 8.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
More than a third more votes than the next highest.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 19 Dec 19 8.50pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
How many times are you going to run with this twaddle? First past the post is the only way to get anything done.
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| davenotamonkey 19 Dec 19 9.11pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When we have PR then that remark will have some validity. Right now we have the will of a minority who have given it to a party who regard their MPs as just lobby fodder. Who is actually deciding the policy direction from here on is unknown but it isn't the people and their representatives! Aww. Do you notice how they're not harping on about the "democratic will of Parliament" when it isn't shafting the electorate that put them there on the basis of fraudulent representation under manifestos they had no intention of honouring? What is it you lot were harping on about? "Parliament is sovereign". Lap it up.
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| silvertop Portishead 19 Dec 19 9.13pm |
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Originally posted by becky
PR would make us end up like Italy - 61 Governments since the end of WWII. They get a heck of a lot done......... Germany Holland all the scandinavians... their quality of life really struggles under the tyranny of PR and "weak" government. By all means Becky let us argue over politics. However please don't regurgitate the piffle spouted by both labour and conservative who benefit entirely from a banjacksed version of democracy designed to maintain a 2 party state.
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| Teddy Eagle Online 19 Dec 19 9.15pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Many people in the last GE, and for others in the past, make their decision on who and what they dislike least. It was especially so with Corbyn and Johnson as the choice as probable PM. PR would actually get more done but in a different way. It would ensure slow but steady progress. A general consensus would develop about our direction as coalitions became the norm. We would see a series of slightly centre left and slightly centre right governments who largely follow the same direction. We would avoid any more zig zags in which governments spend a lot of time undoing what the previous one did or any long series of one party being in power with only a minority of the electorate having voted for them. Which is what we are now seeing with Labour destroying themselves. PR would be boring and predictable at times. Exciting during the coalition negotiations though and during election campaigns. How many people would have agreed with PR if UKIP had gained the 83 seats they were due in 2015?
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| Mapletree Croydon 19 Dec 19 11.00pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You did, I'm not a liar. I'm not going to go through hundreds of posts to satisfy something I know. Would you like me to go over other offensive and dubious things you've said while on here? Yes please I have a credo. I don’t believe I broke it despite your attempts at provocation.
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