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 becky  over the moon 18 Dec 19 7.15am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Here is the answer everyone has been looking for. Become and electrician? How will that help?
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 Stirlingsays 18 Dec 19 7.20am |
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Originally posted by becky
Become and electrician? How will that help? He's just being a bright spark.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Dec 19 8.00am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
He's just being a bright spark. Bringing Wisbech down to Earth.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Dec 19 8.00am |
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When I perused the thoughts of Chairman 'Wisbech' responding to my comments I concluded that they were roughly spherical and males have two of them. Flimsy defence, worse than ours the other night (!) - I certainly wouldn't employ the gentleman as my defence lawyer.His arguments are as weak as a vicarage gin. Evidently one of my posts was a parody and when challenged about the claim that he was accused of "Vaunting superiority" and I stating that I accused him of a TONE of vaunting superiority his response was that he knew that anyway so NOT admitting at all that he was wrong in hurling an incorrect accusation at me.Evidentally the charge of "Vaunting superiority" was used in general terms and not specifically related to me but I have not witnessed anyone else using such terminology. Here is a chap who has asserted that nobody here accepts they are wrong!!!!. He asserts that he is on HOL to learn - being an august luminary he must have gleaned the knowledge that there appears to be a groundswell of opinion that his contributions are emotive Anti-Tory, anti-Leave rhetoric and 24-carat tosh delivered in a patronising tone and one of vaunting superiority. It seems apparent that the gentleman devours the spotlight, despite claims to the contrary, so one again I will assert that far from replying to any of his hogwash I will totally IGNORE it, denying it the oxygen of publicity.The sermons and lectures will go unanswered as quite frankly they will not be worthy of any response. Finally, the Honourable Member for 'More United' mentioned about posts becoming "Personal",perhaps he might reflect whether he has played a part in this. I hope he has a good Christmas,enjoys the festivities and has a happy and healthy New Year. Edited by Willo (18 Dec 2019 9.34am)
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| Stirlingsays 18 Dec 19 8.19am |
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Originally posted by Willo
When I perused the thoughts of Chairman 'Wisbech' responding to my comments I concluded that they were roughly spherical and males have two of them. Flimsy defence, worse than ours the other night (!) - I certainly wouldn't employ the gentleman as my defence lawyer.His arguments are as weak as a vicarage gin. Evidently one of my posts was a parody and when challenged about the claim that he was accused of "Vaunting superiority" and I stating that I accused him of a TONE of vaunting superiority his response was that he knew that anyway so NOT admitting at all that he was wrong in hurling an incorrect accusation at me.Here is a chap who has asserted that nobody here accepts they are wrong!!!!. He asserts that he is on HOL to learn - being an august luminary he must have gleaned the knowlege that there appears to be a groundswell of opinion that his contributions are emotive Anti-Tory, anti-Leave rhetoric and 24-carat tosh delivered in a patronising tone and one of vaunting superiority. It seems apparent that the gentleman devours the spotlight, despite claims to the contrary, so one again I will assert that far from replying to any of his hogwash I will totally IGNORE it, denying it the oxygen of publicity.The sermons and lectures will go unanswered as quite frankly they will not be worthy of any response. Finally, the Honourable Member for 'More United' mentioned about posts becoming "Personal",perhaps he might reflect whether he has played a part in this. I hope he has a good Christmas,enjoys the festivities and has a happy and healthy New Year.
An enjoyable post and points aptly put. This is one Eagle we don't support.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 18 Dec 19 9.27am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No. They are all decent people. However when I discuss the EU with them eyes glaze over and the old tired reasoning comes spilling out about sovereignty, taking back control and immigration. They are not especially politically savvy. and you are of course???
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 18 Dec 19 9.28am |
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Originally posted by Willo
When I perused the thoughts of Chairman 'Wisbech' responding to my comments I concluded that they were roughly spherical and males have two of them. Flimsy defence, worse than ours the other night (!) - I certainly wouldn't employ the gentleman as my defence lawyer.His arguments are as weak as a vicarage gin. Evidently one of my posts was a parody and when challenged about the claim that he was accused of "Vaunting superiority" and I stating that I accused him of a TONE of vaunting superiority his response was that he knew that anyway so NOT admitting at all that he was wrong in hurling an incorrect accusation at me.Evidentally the charge of "Vaunting superiority" was used in general terms and not specifically related to me but I have not witnessed anyone else using such terminology. Here is a chap who has asserted that nobody here accepts they are wrong!!!!. He asserts that he is on HOL to learn - being an august luminary he must have gleaned the knowlege that there appears to be a groundswell of opinion that his contributions are emotive Anti-Tory, anti-Leave rhetoric and 24-carat tosh delivered in a patronising tone and one of vaunting superiority. It seems apparent that the gentleman devours the spotlight, despite claims to the contrary, so one again I will assert that far from replying to any of his hogwash I will totally IGNORE it, denying it the oxygen of publicity.The sermons and lectures will go unanswered as quite frankly they will not be worthy of any response. Finally, the Honourable Member for 'More United' mentioned about posts becoming "Personal",perhaps he might reflect whether he has played a part in this. I hope he has a good Christmas,enjoys the festivities and has a happy and healthy New Year. Edited by Willo (18 Dec 2019 9.02am) nice one Willo
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 Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Dec 19 9.55am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Part time democrat, or when it suits. Now that truly is the pot calling the kettle black. When I read some of the reasoning given by yourself and the others in your cabal I am forced to the conclusion that you don't really understand the meaning of the word. Google's headline definition might help you see why:- "a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives" Please concentrate upon "elected representatives"
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Dec 19 10.03am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Perfectly acceptable and understandable reasons and you dismissing them is why you couldn’t win. No-one "won"! Everyone loses after what happened. We lost control to people unknown behind the Tory party. We will lose our membership of the most important organisation in Europe and become an isolated outsider. We have lost any kind of effective opposition to the most right wing version of the Tory party in my lifetime. Collectively we have lost our senses. The reasons are understandable, but they aren't acceptable because they are simplistic responses to highly complex issues. Issues that need to be handled by experts and not amateurs wound up by the right wing media.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Dec 19 10.14am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
How can you ignore them if you read them and find them irrelevant. That I notice them doesn't mean I read every word. Often I will skim something, get the drift and decide it's pointless trying to respond. Thus I ignore it. No-one on the hard right really accepts that's where their views are. It takes others to see that. This is my take. Ken Clarke, Michael Heseltine and John Major are on the right. "Tommy Robinson" is on the furthest fringe of the far right. Decide for yourself who you are closest to in outlook.
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| Matov 18 Dec 19 10.24am |
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But I would suggest that many people who thought a second referendum a good idea might benefit from perhaps having a copy of 'Democracy for Idiots' awaiting them under their Winterfest trees on the 25th of this month. And perhaps a basic course in mathematics, especially when it comes to percentages? However I would also like to wish you a very festive couple of weeks now and with hopes that come 2020 we can all try to move on from a period in British history which has perhaps bought out the worst in many of us. Till my dying day I will never regret voting Leave and will ALWAYS struggle to comprehend how anybody ever thought that trying to have the votes of 17 plus million people usurped was going to end well but as a newspaper columinst put it at the weekend, the war is over. Lets try and make a go of the peace now.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Dec 19 10.29am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Now that truly is the pot calling the kettle black. When I read some of the reasoning given by yourself and the others in your cabal I am forced to the conclusion that you don't really understand the meaning of the word. Google's headline definition might help you see why:- "a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives" Please concentrate upon "elected representatives" Didn’t I read that you don’t think the MPs should be able to do or think a,b or c now there’s a big majority a it’s your job to make sure they don’t. You know full well that MPs have been under the wing of the party, followed party policy and followed that through with the constituents understanding they’ll do that, for years and years. You’ll also know nearly all vote for the party leader. You are the only person on here who thinks otherwise, and as I’ve said, it’s very very boring. And anyway, chris123 pointed out the final sentence under the role of an MP to prove you’re factually wrong anyway as well.
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