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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Dec 19 10.08am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

The irony of this is that Trossard is nothing other than a Meyer clone...which is why we should be playing him...Roy clearly doesn't think so. Put Meyer in their squad and he'd excel!

Trossard scored 17 goals for Genk last season and Brighton signed him for £18 Mill.
He has scored over 60 goals in his career, Meyer has scored nowhere near that amount.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 17 Dec 19 10.19am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

James McCarthy has to get a full game soon ahead of Luka or Kouyate. He gives a lot more bite than both of them and his passing is a lot better. This is going to be a very very tough Xmas now for us with all these injuries but we just have to get on with it.

Left back is our main problem at the moment as we have no balance down that side.

I’d get Ayew back up into CF against Newcastle. He is worth 2 Benteke’s up there.

Edited by EddieMac (17 Dec 2019 10.27am)

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 17 Dec 19 10.22am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

With the exception of Tomkins, the defence last night was awful,
Kelly, Dann,Riedwald,Kouyate, Milivojevic and Benteke were all hopeless on the night could not string a pass together and kept giving away possession which at times was embarrassing, Making us look like a league two side, McCarthy and Meyer certainly improved things when they came on. Why we continue with Benteke it is beyond me, I can't understand why some still think he is great!, he clearly is well out of his depth and should not have had his contract renewed because no one will want him, even as a free, with the contract he expects!

 

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View lellbell's Profile lellbell Flag Ashford 17 Dec 19 10.23am Send a Private Message to lellbell Add lellbell as a friend

Originally posted by The Yorkshire Eagle

Given our predicament a point was a bonus last night but, despite our injuries, we simply did no get the basics right. Sky’s Jammie C showed a freeze frame where half our defence had their backs to a Brighton player and was leaving them acres of space on the flanks and between our lines.... even with a makeshift team... poor basics.

I also don’t get why Roy persist with Kouyate. His control is poor and contribute little in attacking terms. Why the does he not give Camarasa a run when, according to other contributors, he is the most creative mid-fielder in the club we have? If he warrants a seat on the bench why not...or get rid?

Finally I hope Roy gives ‘Bentechers’ a run now. He holds up well and offers a dimension we lack elsewhere and he will score...eventually!


Agree about tekkers,when we finally started going forward he won headers,had some good shots and had good link up play,just hope he gets a run and starts scoring for his sake and ours

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Dec 19 10.46am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Not sure last night deserves the level of criticism on here.
We were missing 6 top players from our squad, including 3 regular defenders which is a lot for a club like ours.

We have 23 points from 17 games which means we only need around another 15 to stay up. We will look better when Townsend and Van Arnholt and Schlupp return.

PS. I thought Benteke did alright last night. He needs game time.

 

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 17 Dec 19 10.59am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Trossard scored 17 goals for Genk last season and Brighton signed him for £18 Mill.
He has scored over 60 goals in his career, Meyer has scored nowhere near that amount.

...and? How does that help the discussion?

All you're doing is trotting out stats for stats sake.

I should've been clearer when posting that i'm talking about their playing style.

Meyer has more quality and ability than Trossard..he just hasn't found the side playing a system that suits his qualities yet.

If we were to play him (regularly) in his best position, at the head of a midfield 3 then we'd see him score and set up a lot more goals...but we dont play that system.


Edited by Lyons550 (17 Dec 2019 11.02am)

 


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View peterg's Profile peterg Flag Anerley 17 Dec 19 11.09am Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

Roy and the team are making the best of a bad hand. This is paying off with our defensive record, one goal conceded now in four games. His hints about the transfer window are a recurring theme. Let's hope SP listens to him this time. The big calls will come if we sell Wilf and try to rebuild the team without him. Are we confident that SP and Roy will get it right in terms of reconstructing our attack with at least two purchases? They must be scared stiff of another blunder like Benteke....

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Dec 19 11.11am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

...and? How does that help the discussion?

All you're doing is trotting out stats for stats sake.

I should've been clearer when posting that i'm talking about their playing style.

Meyer has more quality and ability than Trossard..he just hasn't found the side playing a system that suits his qualities yet.

If we were to play him (regularly) in his best position, at the head of a midfield 3 then we'd see him score and set up a lot more goals...but we dont play that system.


Edited by Lyons550 (17 Dec 2019 11.02am)

With respect, I only provided stats to indicate the difference in the goalscoring records of Trossard and Meyer and that they are not the same player.

Trossard provides a goal threat and Meyer throughout his career has not been so.Whether a change of style or position will suddenly ignite Meyer as a goalscorer is a matter for conjecture.

 

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View Coach 3's Profile Coach 3 Flag Sandown Isle of Wight 17 Dec 19 11.15am Send a Private Message to Coach 3 Add Coach 3 as a friend

Personally my main issue with last nights performance was a
total lack of passion. Yes we were short of certain players but that can't hide the fact that it felt at times like most of the team was going through the motions while Brighton were really up for it. A bit of Wilf magic saved the game for us, given the way the game went a point was a decent outcome.

 

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View Terry Ven's Profile Terry Ven Flag 17 Dec 19 11.47am Send a Private Message to Terry Ven Add Terry Ven as a friend

Blimey we were lucky to get a point last night; seeing that penno shout of theirs I don't know how VAR didn't give it. You gotta laugh, but it does make you wonder what VAR is actually for? And WTF do we do if Wilf does go in January?

 

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View si_1967's Profile si_1967 Flag Surrey 17 Dec 19 11.54am Send a Private Message to si_1967 Add si_1967 as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Other than having Riedewald at left back it is difficult to accept injuries as an excuse for the performance.
It was experienced team with players in familiar positions.
We were totally outplayed and at the end I was really happy with the point.
Should this really be the limit of our aspirations?
We made Brighton look like Man City, which they clearly aren’t.
We could have taken the game to them from the outset,as we did in the last 15 minutes, and get at their defence.
It was noticeable that Benteke improved when we took the handbrake off and got players closer to him.
In terms of coaching attacking play it’s fair to say I’m not Hodgson’s biggest fan.

I don't think that's quite fair on the defence. Kelly is a makeshift right back who is doing his very best, Riedewald was not only out of position but also injured, so we used a midfielder for 45 minutes. Dann hasn't really played much all season and has also had injuries. Given that, i'd say the defence performed heroically. Most of Brighton's shots were from long distance and barely worried Guiata (who was very good last night, again).

Hodgson admitted the tactics were wrong last night, and I think the intensity was wrong too... but there is a lot be positive about, especially how the team works for each other and never gives up.

 


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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 17 Dec 19 12.22pm Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Originally posted by si_1967

I don't think that's quite fair on the defence. Kelly is a makeshift right back who is doing his very best, Riedewald was not only out of position but also injured, so we used a midfielder for 45 minutes. Dann hasn't really played much all season and has also had injuries. Given that, i'd say the defence performed heroically. Most of Brighton's shots were from long distance and barely worried Guiata (who was very good last night, again).

Hodgson admitted the tactics were wrong last night, and I think the intensity was wrong too... but there is a lot be positive about, especially how the team works for each other and never gives up.

Great post and 100% accurate IMO

 

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