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 Painter  Croydon 17 Dec 19 12.31pm |
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Originally posted by The Yorkshire Eagle
I also don’t get why Roy persist with Kouyate. His control is poor and contribute little in attacking terms. Why the does he not give Camarasa a run when, according to other contributors, he is the most creative mid-fielder in the club we have? If he warrants a seat on the bench why not...or get rid? How people think Camarassa is any good as a creative midfielder, after a poor showing against Colchester is baffling. Kouyate fits our style of play, not his best game last night, but has been very consistent this season.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 17 Dec 19 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
With respect, I only provided stats to indicate the difference in the goalscoring records of Trossard and Meyer and that they are not the same player. Trossard provides a goal threat and Meyer throughout his career has not been so.Whether a change of style or position will suddenly ignite Meyer as a goalscorer is a matter for conjecture.
The point I was making was they're both very similar players; low centre of gravity, good close control, eye for a pass and technically proficient. The fact one scored a lot of goals at a lower level and whilst playing in a different position whilst doing so isn't adding anything to the discussion.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Dec 19 1.12pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
The point I was making was they're both very similar players; low centre of gravity, good close control, eye for a pass and technically proficient. The fact one scored a lot of goals at a lower level and whilst playing in a different position whilst doing so isn't adding anything to the discussion. I think you've misunderstood Meyer's game and I actually think his goalscoring record is relevant. Leandro Trossard is physically similar to Meyer however they play different styles of football. Trossard is a goal scoring winger, an attacking player, and I think it is a common misconception that Meyer is an 'attacking midfielder'. Apparently it was commonly considered in Germany that his best position was as a number 6 so to speak, he isn't naturally inclined to get forward and/or score goals, he is more of a neat and tidy, technically sound player in the middle of the park who sprays the ball about (when given the opportunity of course). I think he looked good yesterday when he came on and made an impact but I am pessimistic we will ever see the best of him. Earlier in this season and last he often fails to get in to the game at which point he is only taking up a place on the pitch, hence why Roy would rather have someone a bit more combative in there most the time. I am a fan of Maxi however I am still on the fence with my enthusiasm for him to start week in week out.
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| cpj Kent 17 Dec 19 3.56pm |
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I feel for Roy as he had to sell his best player in the summer and didn't get to spend the money BUT his style of play is just so dull. Three defensive centrel midfielders in every game regardless of the opposition. Rarely any change in plan with the substitutions (except last night when Meyer came on and we suddenly looked good). Same old corners/free kicks from Luka - do they not practice any attacking ploys in training? Also, what does he see in McCarthy? He finally had two youngsters on the bench last night due to injuuries, yet when Riedewald went off he moved Jimmy Mac to LB rather than bring on Mitchell - why have him on the bench if he had no thought of bringing him on? We've played 10 home games in all comps this season and scored 1 goal in the first half and that was a penalty. Something has to change before the crowds start falling away due to the tedium on offer.
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Uphill  Bedford 17 Dec 19 4.03pm |
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Not mentioned much but I though James Tomkins was heroic His sublime flicked on header to Zaha produced the goal. Cahill is a loss but if Sakho is back to partner Tomkins
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| cpj Kent 17 Dec 19 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by Uphill
Not mentioned much but I though James Tomkins was heroic His sublime flicked on header to Zaha produced the goal. Cahill is a loss but if Sakho is back to partner Tomkins He has one more game to miss.
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| Charlie Croker Hampshire 17 Dec 19 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by Uphill
Not mentioned much but I though James Tomkins was heroic His sublime flicked on header to Zaha produced the goal. Cahill is a loss but if Sakho is back to partner Tomkins 3 game ban so not back until the 26th
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Attachment: | Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Dec 19 4.20pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I think you've misunderstood Meyer's game and I actually think his goalscoring record is relevant. Leandro Trossard is physically similar to Meyer however they play different styles of football. Trossard is a goal scoring winger, an attacking player, and I think it is a common misconception that Meyer is an 'attacking midfielder'. Apparently it was commonly considered in Germany that his best position was as a number 6 so to speak, he isn't naturally inclined to get forward and/or score goals, he is more of a neat and tidy, technically sound player in the middle of the park who sprays the ball about (when given the opportunity of course). I think he looked good yesterday when he came on and made an impact but I am pessimistic we will ever see the best of him. Earlier in this season and last he often fails to get in to the game at which point he is only taking up a place on the pitch, hence why Roy would rather have someone a bit more combative in there most the time. I am a fan of Maxi however I am still on the fence with my enthusiasm for him to start week in week out. Good post and basically your comments were going to be my response to Lyons550's last post.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Dec 19 4.31pm |
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Originally posted by Uphill
Not mentioned much but I though James Tomkins was heroic His sublime flicked on header to Zaha produced the goal. Cahill is a loss but if Sakho is back to partner Tomkins Yes I totally agree.
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| Casual Orpington 17 Dec 19 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
The irony of this is that Trossard is nothing other than a Meyer clone...which is why we should be playing him...Roy clearly doesn't think so. Put Meyer in their squad and he'd excel! I said exactly the same about Meyer.
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| samprior Hamburg 17 Dec 19 6.15pm |
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Sakho will still be out with suspension. Newcastle have their own problems with ASM, Shelvey and Almiron all potentially out. Could be quite an ugly game with both teams desperately trying to give each other possession Still we could get something if we play like we did in the last 20mins yesterday. Hopefully Gayle won't come back to haunt us and we have the entire first team squad wrapped in cotton wool until Saturday. Originally posted by Uphill
Not mentioned much but I though James Tomkins was heroic His sublime flicked on header to Zaha produced the goal. Cahill is a loss but if Sakho is back to partner Tomkins
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| Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 17 Dec 19 7.39pm |
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The reality is that Roy tends to use Max when he wants us to attack a team. Since he doesn't typically want this, he doesn't typically want Max. Max is a bit lightweight if resilience, athleticism and grit are your teams watch words. And they are. This may sound like bitching but it isn't. We are 9th on 23 points after 17 games with a squad that's not had as much investment as it needs. That's outstanding.
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