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Uphill Online Bedford 18 Dec 19 2.20pm
The Tories would be delighted with any of the runners and riders now listed for Labour leader. Thornberry is almost as slimey and irritating as Diane Abbott. I hope Caroline Flint successfully defends her case in the courts. Keir Starmer? A knight and a millionaire as a Labour leader would be a first. They need someone who is quick-witted, sensible and (especially) articulate to survive the hurly burly of Parliament. Still think that Stephen Kinnock would be good for them and give Boris a run for his money at the despatch box. Unlike his father he is too sensible to be selected and one of the younger women will get it is my guess. Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders
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Bedford 18 Dec 19 2.20pm

The Tories would be delighted with any of the runners and riders now listed for Labour leader.

Thornberry is almost as slimey and irritating as Diane Abbott. I hope Caroline Flint successfully defends her case in the courts.
Keir Starmer? A knight and a millionaire as a Labour leader would be a first.

They need someone who is quick-witted, sensible and (especially) articulate to survive the hurly burly of Parliament.

Still think that Stephen Kinnock would be good for them and give Boris a run for his money at the despatch box.

Unlike his father he is too sensible to be selected and
one of the younger women will get it is my guess.

Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

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DANGERCLOSE london 18 Dec 19 3.36pm
Definitely think that Dianne Abbott should have a shot. Entertainment value would be without end!!
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london 18 Dec 19 3.36pm

Definitely think that Dianne Abbott should have a shot. Entertainment value would be without end!!

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Lyons550 Shirley 18 Dec 19 3.57pm
Originally posted by Matov To be fair to him, they all did. Labour Career path used to be land a northen tribal seat and pop up their once or twice a year to pat the natives on the head whilst swanning around N1 and making crass jokes about their consituencents. It was UKIP that started the rot. People began to vote for them in the Euro's elections and that almost Pavlovian conditioning in terms of ticking the Labour box began to weaken. Hard research to back that up as well. But loving his work this morning. Zero understanding about the impact of the second referendum madness. Apparently it was all down to Corbyn. LOL. Following on from the above...if the Tories pump money into the Northern powerhouse they'll cement a furter term as well on the back of it...it'd be like taking candy from a baby.... I like the cut of Nandy's 'jib' but if Gloria de Piero was back and became the leader..... (drifts off whistfully) Edited by Lyons550 (18 Dec 2019 3.58pm) The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 18 Dec 19 3.57pm

Originally posted by Matov

To be fair to him, they all did. Labour Career path used to be land a northen tribal seat and pop up their once or twice a year to pat the natives on the head whilst swanning around N1 and making crass jokes about their consituencents.

It was UKIP that started the rot. People began to vote for them in the Euro's elections and that almost Pavlovian conditioning in terms of ticking the Labour box began to weaken. Hard research to back that up as well.

But loving his work this morning. Zero understanding about the impact of the second referendum madness. Apparently it was all down to Corbyn. LOL.

Following on from the above...if the Tories pump money into the Northern powerhouse they'll cement a furter term as well on the back of it...it'd be like taking candy from a baby.... I like the cut of Nandy's 'jib' but if Gloria de Piero was back and became the leader..... (drifts off whistfully)

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The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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cryrst The garden of England 18 Dec 19 5.41pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 Following on from the above...if the Tories pump money into the Northern powerhouse they'll cement a furter term as well on the back of it...it'd be like taking candy from a baby.... I like the cut of Nandy's 'jib' but if Gloria de Piero was back and became the leader..... (drifts off whistfully) Edited by Lyons550 (18 Dec 2019 3.58pm) I reckon GDP is top of your shower bank
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The garden of England 18 Dec 19 5.41pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

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I reckon GDP is top of your shower bank

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Matov Online 18 Dec 19 6.36pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 Following on from the above...if the Tories pump money into the Northern powerhouse they'll cement a furter term as well on the back of it... (drifts off whistfully) Edited by Lyons550 (18 Dec 2019 3.58pm) Certainly one of the more interesting issues over the next 5 years. Cummings is a native Northerner (Durham I believe) and has a special loathing for what he see's as the Metropolitian elite so if he is running the project then it could be an interesting strategy. Labour must be giving thanks for the Brexit party. Without them the massacre would have been even worse. Their own party chairman barely survived. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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18 Dec 19 6.36pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Following on from the above...if the Tories pump money into the Northern powerhouse they'll cement a furter term as well on the back of it... (drifts off whistfully)

Edited by Lyons550 (18 Dec 2019 3.58pm)

Certainly one of the more interesting issues over the next 5 years. Cummings is a native Northerner (Durham I believe) and has a special loathing for what he see's as the Metropolitian elite so if he is running the project then it could be an interesting strategy.

Labour must be giving thanks for the Brexit party. Without them the massacre would have been even worse. Their own party chairman barely survived.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Stirlingsays 19 Dec 19 2.43am
Originally posted by Matov Certainly one of the more interesting issues over the next 5 years. Cummings is a native Northerner (Durham I believe) and has a special loathing for what he see's as the Metropolitian elite so if he is running the project then it could be an interesting strategy. Labour must be giving thanks for the Brexit party. Without them the massacre would have been even worse. Their own party chairman barely survived. In terms of voters, outside of the city, it certainly doesn't make any sense for the Tories to try in London anymore. A focus on the north to engage those new voters has some validity. Interestingly, if expectedly, Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry has said she will throw her hat in the ring to replace Jeremy Corbyn. Just thank god it wasn't her keys. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Dec 2019 2.43am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Dec 19 2.43am

Originally posted by Matov

Labour must be giving thanks for the Brexit party. Without them the massacre would have been even worse. Their own party chairman barely survived.

In terms of voters, outside of the city, it certainly doesn't make any sense for the Tories to try in London anymore.

A focus on the north to engage those new voters has some validity.

Interestingly, if expectedly, Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry has said she will throw her hat in the ring to replace Jeremy Corbyn.

Just thank god it wasn't her keys.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Dec 2019 2.43am)

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Teddy Eagle 19 Dec 19 3.35am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays In terms of voters, outside of the city, it certainly doesn't make any sense for the Tories to try in London anymore. A focus on the north to engage those new voters has some validity. Interestingly, if expectedly, Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry has said she will throw her hat in the ring to replace Jeremy Corbyn. Just thank god it wasn't her keys. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Dec 2019 2.43am) Tom Lehrer said satire died when Kissinger won the Nobel Peace prize - looking at the candidates for Labour leader it appears practical jokes are alive and well.
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19 Dec 19 3.35am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

In terms of voters, outside of the city, it certainly doesn't make any sense for the Tories to try in London anymore.

A focus on the north to engage those new voters has some validity.

Interestingly, if expectedly, Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry has said she will throw her hat in the ring to replace Jeremy Corbyn.

Just thank god it wasn't her keys.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Dec 2019 2.43am)

Tom Lehrer said satire died when Kissinger won the Nobel Peace prize - looking at the candidates for Labour leader it appears practical jokes are alive and well.

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Stirlingsays 19 Dec 19 3.38am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Tom Lehrer said satire died when Kissinger won the Nobel Peace prize - looking at the candidates for Labour leader it appears practical jokes are alive and well. Yep, they surpassed themselves with Kissinger, it makes Obama look like a mere chuckle in comparison. That panel should be writing 'dick' jokes for Hollywood 'pot' comedies. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Dec 2019 3.45am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Dec 19 3.38am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Tom Lehrer said satire died when Kissinger won the Nobel Peace prize - looking at the candidates for Labour leader it appears practical jokes are alive and well.

Yep, they surpassed themselves with Kissinger, it makes Obama look like a mere chuckle in comparison.

That panel should be writing 'dick' jokes for Hollywood 'pot' comedies.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Dec 2019 3.45am)

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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Dec 19 9.02am
No 1 tweet on Twitter is: #Corbynwasright [Link] Not good news for any moderate candidates. If you want a laugh read some of the comments the election was merely an irrelevant inconvenience to them. One more point
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Beckenham 19 Dec 19 9.02am

No 1 tweet on Twitter is:

#Corbynwasright

[Link]

Not good news for any moderate candidates. If you want a laugh read some of the comments the election was merely an irrelevant inconvenience to them.

One more point

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johnno42000 19 Dec 19 9.44am
Personally I like Jess Phillips but she has criticised Corbyn and is to the centre of the Party so Momentum would need to be challenged and beaten. If Kinnock can do what his dad did and take on and beat the far left then he would be a good choice. A few others Andy Burnham, Caroline Flint and Dan Jarvis. It'll be hard for any new leader but I believe that, as BJ said, votes have been lent and anything lent can be regained. I believe both Brexit and Corbyn (rightly or wrongly) had massive negative impacts for the Labour vote and with both these things gone (hopefully) by the time of the next election it is just about possible for Labour to make serious inroads if (and it is a big if) they can get their act together. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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19 Dec 19 9.44am

Personally I like Jess Phillips but she has criticised Corbyn and is to the centre of the Party so Momentum would need to be challenged and beaten.

If Kinnock can do what his dad did and take on and beat the far left then he would be a good choice.

A few others Andy Burnham, Caroline Flint and Dan Jarvis.

It'll be hard for any new leader but I believe that, as BJ said, votes have been lent and anything lent can be regained.

I believe both Brexit and Corbyn (rightly or wrongly) had massive negative impacts for the Labour vote and with both these things gone (hopefully) by the time of the next election it is just about possible for Labour to make serious inroads if (and it is a big if) they can get their act together.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Dec 19 9.53am
Another poster pointed out that in the red wall areas people would not even think about voting anything but Labour. I suspect anyone who did vote Tory kept their mouths shut. Now that the wall has been broken Tory is no longer a dirty word and the longer that goes on the easier it will be for the voters to pick and choose their parties. Labour may get back in but I doubt they will ever have the knee jerk vote back. It's like your local pub the governor has to work hard to build up the clientele however a new governor can lose his customers in weeks and never get them back. Edited by Badger11 (19 Dec 2019 9.53am) One more point
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Beckenham 19 Dec 19 9.53am

Another poster pointed out that in the red wall areas people would not even think about voting anything but Labour. I suspect anyone who did vote Tory kept their mouths shut.

Now that the wall has been broken Tory is no longer a dirty word and the longer that goes on the easier it will be for the voters to pick and choose their parties. Labour may get back in but I doubt they will ever have the knee jerk vote back.

It's like your local pub the governor has to work hard to build up the clientele however a new governor can lose his customers in weeks and never get them back.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Dec 2019 9.53am)

One more point

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johnno42000 19 Dec 19 9.57am
Originally posted by Badger11 Another poster pointed out that in the red wall areas people would not even think about voting anything but Labour. I suspect anyone who did vote Tory kept their mouths shut. Now that the wall has been broken Tory is no longer a dirty word and the longer that goes on the easier it will be for the voters to pick and choose their parties. Labour may get back in but I doubt they will ever have the knee jerk vote back. It's like your local pub the governor has to work hard to build up the clientele however a new governor can lose his customers in weeks and never get them back. Edited by Badger11 (19 Dec 2019 9.53am) Or it could be like Palace and lose their supporters in the 80's and they come back later I am trying very hard to be optimistic. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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19 Dec 19 9.57am

Originally posted by Badger11

Another poster pointed out that in the red wall areas people would not even think about voting anything but Labour. I suspect anyone who did vote Tory kept their mouths shut.

It's like your local pub the governor has to work hard to build up the clientele however a new governor can lose his customers in weeks and never get them back.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Dec 2019 9.53am)

Or it could be like Palace and lose their supporters in the 80's and they come back later I am trying very hard to be optimistic.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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