I believe we do have teeth up front - yes, not as good as top 6 / 8 teams but how we play with a defensive midfield doesn’t allow us to attack. Our forwards also play in a defensive way supporting the midfield - we don’t use creativity in midfield which slows our attacking down and allows teams to easily defend against us. Meyer and Camarasa don’t get a look in as that would disturb the set up which has got us above the bottom 3. Yesterday was a good example of all Palace matches I watch with plenty of passing the ball back or sideways and making sure the defence doesn’t get broken down. Only once did I think we would score and McCarthur fell over :-(

My favourite Palace player. If we had anybody in the midfield with his attacking presence now we would be far more effective in front of goal. Fondly remember a game at White Hart Lane where everybody was expecting Gazza to shine but Geoff stole the show. A creator and brilliant captain who would push the team forward. With Bright and Wright in a formidable attack was the real link to them.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

For me the big reason why we have lacked attacking spark this season in many games is that Ward, and now Kelly, are not great at getting forward and Townsend has either been out of form or unfit for much of the season. Last year AWB and PvA got forward and supported Wilf and Andros and all that was missing was a goal scorer; Batshuayi came in and Bobs your uncle we climbed the table with verve and vigour. I lay the blame for this season's performances not at Roy's door but at the club for failing to sign neither a replacement for AWB or Batshuayi. We also clearly needed a back up winger, which has blown up in our faces again.

Having three holding midfielders can actually work if it allows the fullbacks to push on and the wingers to have more freedom, but at the current time our squad deficiencies are showing through. Meyer came on yesterday and once again showed his main weakness as Shelvey held him off like he was a small boy. For all his fans I just don't see how he fits in with the way we play other than as an impact sub? I thought McCarthy added some bite and with a few more games under his belt will be a strong asset.

Some games have been awful to watch this year and just when we seem to be finding our feet again and playing slightly more attacking football this has usually tied in with Andros starting. PvA coming back yesterday made a big difference as when he was out we really were impotent.

For me, if we have to endure this in the short-term then so be it, but the club can't go into next season and expect Roy to work miracles again. I just hope we do something in January to at least ensure we have the players to keep us up this year.

I agree, a cup final appearance and dare I say a win will live with us forever. Eventually we will be back in the lower division and having nothing to show for these seasons in the prem will be a missed opportunity. Especially for us old geezers as the time to see an FA cup final win gets less and less :-(

there are also no bench players that create a buzz when you see them about to come on.
Before wrighty was established, when he came on, the crowd would lift, Christ even bloody Finnegan or butter foot bruce dyer coming on was better than now!
Wish roy would give a few younger lads a run out.
If it wasn't for injuries Bissaka would possibly not had his chance.
I just dont enjoy the palace this season(so far)

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

Good post.

Agree, unless we redevelop the stadium then you wonder what was the point of it all.

Personally I don’t care what league we are in. I go to watch Palace, not the opponents.

Great we are in the Premiership but it is not half as exciting as the Championship, where you can be 12th in the table at Christmas and still get promoted.

That’s just my take.

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