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View Crystal_Clear's Profile Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 09 Sep 20 4.17pm Send a Private Message to Crystal_Clear Add Crystal_Clear as a friend

Originally posted by sotac464

Everton have spent 535 million in the past 5 years, making them the 4th highest spenders in the premiership. Moshiri is a wealthy owner, but there are suggestions he is also backed by usmanov.

When you can afford the best accountants in the world, also lawyers in Man City’s case, FFP is nothing but a loop hole for them to overcome.

535m and they have literally achieved nothing. Probably exactly the same as they were before. That's without what they are paying Ancelotti,

Of all the players they have bought, I can only think of Digne who has actually performed. I'm pretty sure they had benched Richarlison and Siguardsson at some point last season, and Moise Kean has yet to arrive from Italy has he ?

We were actually ahead of them before our bad run.

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 09 Sep 20 4.18pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

In my country they are quoting this tweet that Palace is supposed to split 53 million between Ismaila Sarr and Coman. Probably 38 and 15 or something like that.

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Surely those 53 million could only be available with a big sell, right?

I would say so and it ain’t going to be MacCarthy!

 

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View sotac464's Profile sotac464 Flag Berkshire 09 Sep 20 4.55pm Send a Private Message to sotac464 Add sotac464 as a friend

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

535m and they have literally achieved nothing. Probably exactly the same as they were before. That's without what they are paying Ancelotti,

Of all the players they have bought, I can only think of Digne who has actually performed. I'm pretty sure they had benched Richarlison and Siguardsson at some point last season, and Moise Kean has yet to arrive from Italy has he ?

We were actually ahead of them before our bad run.

To put it in perspective, end of the 2015/2016 season when Moshiri came in, Everton finished on 47 points, Liverpool on 60.
Since then Evertons net spend per season is £55 million compared to Liverpool's which is £18.5 million.

If they are the only club prepared to spend silly money on Zaha, then he goes there with my blessing, if we could bring in Benrahma and Harry Wilson as replacements, I'd take that.

Edited by sotac464 (09 Sep 2020 4.56pm)

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Sep 20 5.05pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I found that he assisted 5 and scored 4. And was very unlucky not to get on the scoring sheet a few times, especially in those last matches with big teams.

Assisted 10 and scored 10 the season before.

5 with 9 the one before that.

11 with 7 the one before.

Pretty much similar playing time each season, around 3.000 minutes.

No way Eberechi can replace him in the next 2-3 years. Eberechi is also much shorter, he is a different type of player. Zaha is pretty much top quality in the Premier League. I could see some players who can replace him, but it's hard.

I made this 1 and half years ago, so some of those names still stand. Others have gotten too old (Alessandrini, Gervinho) or injured (Thauvin, Iago Falque, Claesson) while others are simply too expensive (Oyarzabal, Thorgan Hazard, Lukebakio, Rashica, Joaquin Correa, Politano, Ocampos, Horta, Otavio). If one seeks a like-for-like Zaha replacement, then no left footers either. That would leave only a few players, thought others have surfaced since then.


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Out of these 30 players I named, only 5 have disappointed in the last year: Nakajima, Lamela, Fraser, Politano and Pione Sisto. 22 (without the aforementioned injured ones) played extremely well.

Edited by mattteo (09 Sep 2020 3.35pm)

Your assessment of Zaha is correct ( apart from last season) I do not agree with your assessment of Eze imo he has the ability to be as big a player as Zaha very quickly . I am not sure their height difference is crucial, it’s not as if Zaha is renowned for his heading ability

 

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View sotac464's Profile sotac464 Flag Berkshire 09 Sep 20 5.31pm Send a Private Message to sotac464 Add sotac464 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I found that he assisted 5 and scored 4. And was very unlucky not to get on the scoring sheet a few times, especially in those last matches with big teams.

Assisted 10 and scored 10 the season before.

5 with 9 the one before that.

11 with 7 the one before.

Pretty much similar playing time each season, around 3.000 minutes.

No way Eberechi can replace him in the next 2-3 years. Eberechi is also much shorter, he is a different type of player. Zaha is pretty much top quality in the Premier League. I could see some players who can replace him, but it's hard.

I made this 1 and half years ago, so some of those names still stand. Others have gotten too old (Alessandrini, Gervinho) or injured (Thauvin, Iago Falque, Claesson) while others are simply too expensive (Oyarzabal, Thorgan Hazard, Lukebakio, Rashica, Joaquin Correa, Politano, Ocampos, Horta, Otavio). If one seeks a like-for-like Zaha replacement, then no left footers either. That would leave only a few players, thought others have surfaced since then.


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Out of these 30 players I named, only 5 have disappointed in the last year: Nakajima, Lamela, Fraser, Politano and Pione Sisto. 22 (without the aforementioned injured ones) played extremely well.

Edited by mattteo (09 Sep 2020 3.35pm)

I could see some players who can replace him, but it's hard.


Last summer when we thought he was going, we was strongly rumoured to be linked to both Sarr and Saint Maximan.

Sarr cost £30 million for Watford and Saint Maximan £16 million for Newcastle. Both players now worth, considerably a lot more.

Should we have sold Zaha and brought in both of these? Of course, in hindsight, as they both look fantastic players.

Mattteo I'm interested to know, what you thought of both of those players, before they joined there respective clubs last summer, and are there other foreign players, in your opinion, who could do a similar job.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Sep 20 5.41pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

With these transfer links, it makes me wonder if a takeover is happening? The US owners have never looked like being sugar daddies and I wouldn't see the club or the other shareholders being able to raise the kind of money we are spending.
Perhaps we will be hugely in debt? I'm not at all in the know, just wondering how we are supposed to be getting the money for signing these players. I guess Zaha could be leaving too - but surely a 50m transfer would be in the news?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 09 Sep 20 5.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

With these transfer links, it makes me wonder if a takeover is happening? The US owners have never looked like being sugar daddies and I wouldn't see the club or the other shareholders being able to raise the kind of money we are spending.
Perhaps we will be hugely in debt? I'm not at all in the know, just wondering how we are supposed to be getting the money for signing these players. I guess Zaha could be leaving too - but surely a 50m transfer would be in the news?

I must admit I was wondering when someone was going to mention it.

We have some big salaries on the books and we are taking in more of them....with not a lot of shipping out news.

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

With these transfer links, it makes me wonder if a takeover is happening? The US owners have never looked like being sugar daddies and I wouldn't see the club or the other shareholders being able to raise the kind of money we are spending.
Perhaps we will be hugely in debt? I'm not at all in the know, just wondering how we are supposed to be getting the money for signing these players. I guess Zaha could be leaving too - but surely a 50m transfer would be in the news?

I’ve been wondering the same since they decided to invest so much into the academy and younger players. Would be a good selling point, maybe new owners are in some way involved in the purchases

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I must admit I was wondering when someone was going to mention it.

We have some big salaries on the books and we are taking in more of them....with not a lot of shipping out news.

Yep unless Harris and Blitzer have “released the handbrake” on investment with FFP rules being relaxed for this season.

With Harris and Blitzer we are comfortably mid table in terms of owners wealth in fact in 9th place ahead of both Liverpool and Everton and just behind Man U who are 8th;

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

With these transfer links, it makes me wonder if a takeover is happening? The US owners have never looked like being sugar daddies and I wouldn't see the club or the other shareholders being able to raise the kind of money we are spending.
Perhaps we will be hugely in debt? I'm not at all in the know, just wondering how we are supposed to be getting the money for signing these players. I guess Zaha could be leaving too - but surely a 50m transfer would be in the news?

So far we have spent something like £15m on Eze with a potential £4m in add ons

We are more than likely looking at having to spend £6m perhaps rising to £10m on Ferguson

We haven’t spent big in my eyes. It’s some time ago now but there was the winter window where we signed PVA, Schlupp and Luka for a combined £40m. That was spending big...especially in a winter window.

Bats is coming in on loan. Some of the links to lower league sides will carry nominal fees.

I suspect we won’t spend big unless we sell big.

 

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

With these transfer links, it makes me wonder if a takeover is happening? The US owners have never looked like being sugar daddies and I wouldn't see the club or the other shareholders being able to raise the kind of money we are spending.
Perhaps we will be hugely in debt? I'm not at all in the know, just wondering how we are supposed to be getting the money for signing these players. I guess Zaha could be leaving too - but surely a 50m transfer would be in the news?

I think it’s a combination of a couple of things:

1.The likelyhood that unless money is invested now we may well be relegated ....the subsequent loss of income would be catastrophic especially in the current climate.
2. Nothing has been invested in the squad for at least 2 years.

 

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View AdaSirin's Profile AdaSirin Flag London 09 Sep 20 6.27pm Send a Private Message to AdaSirin Add AdaSirin as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I must admit I was wondering when someone was going to mention it.

We have some big salaries on the books and we are taking in more of them....with not a lot of shipping out news.

A lot of existing contracts are ending next summer. Some will be renewed but I suspect that many won't. It's a big part of why this transfer window and the one next summer are so important for us. It's all about transforming and rebuilding the squad from the ground up, and shedding a lot of existing players on high wages.

From what I've read from ITKs like Carl, this summer and next summer were always planned to be big windows for us, because we've now finally cleared a lot of our debts from previous purchases we made 3-4 years ago. We've had to do our best to survive within very limited means for the past few seasons because of those previous purchases, but now we're finally reaching the big payoff and thus we have much more money this time around.

It's also why surviving in the Premier League is extra important this season. This rebuilding of the team will span two summer transfer windows — what we're seeing now is just the first half of it.

 

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