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 Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 18 Jan 20 6.49am |
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The problem is 'activists' like Kehinde Andrews, Stormzy and Afua Hirsch are so obsessed with calling out racism anywhere and everywhere it doesn't matter how white people conduct themselves because discrimination is subconsciously ingrained in them. Andrews, a quite appalling character, once smirked on BBC's Big Question that racism was in the DNA of Britain.
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Midlands Eagle  18 Jan 20 7.30am |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
Andrews, a quite appalling character, once smirked on BBC's Big Question that racism was in the DNA of Britain. Racism is in the DNA of every nation as it seems part of the human nature to hate people of a different colour, religion or tribe
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| Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 18 Jan 20 7.35am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Racism is in the DNA of every nation as it seems part of the human nature to hate people of a different colour, religion or tribe Hate is wrong. Distrust, fear of the unknown. In any event, my point was that Andrews was seemingly celebrating this 'fact'. Of course birds of a feather and all that but not necessarily hate.
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| Stirlingsays 18 Jan 20 9.10am |
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Hate is the word being used by the activists to justify their persecution and intimidation of people with viewpoints perfectly consistent with most of the world's population. It's mostly confined to describing white males or just whites and it's as transparent as glass. I don't 'hate' anyone and I suspect that most people don't 'hate' anyone either. These people are liars and they have always been liars. Mohammad Ali talked about this to Parkinson.....You can see how since that debate the leaders and activists of the white left have twisted and perverted the very nature of the discourse. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jan 2020 9.15am)
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| dannyboy1978 18 Jan 20 9.36am |
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I think the long and short of it is black people have come to a cross road. I feel alot of black people have the opportunity to take on life and succeed but when they don't they go back to the race card because they don't take responsibility for their short comings. I think the race card is coming to an end and it's becoming more transparent.
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| Midlands Eagle 18 Jan 20 9.39am |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
Hate is wrong. Distrust, fear of the unknown. In any event, my point was that Andrews was seemingly celebrating this 'fact'. Of course birds of a feather and all that but not necessarily hate. Hating may be wrong but that's the way of the world. According to your profile you're in Northern Cyprus so you should know all about one nationality hating another. Two sections of the same religion in Northern Ireland hate each other whilst two divisions of Islam provide hate all over the Middle East whilst in Africa it seems that people are willing to commit mass murder of people belonging to a different tribe. In Great Britain the biggest racial divides are not just black and white but Indians and Muslims who both seem to hate each other too
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| Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 18 Jan 20 9.45am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Hating may be wrong but that's the way of the world. According to your profile you're in Northern Cyprus so you should know all about one nationality hating another. Two sections of the same religion in Northern Ireland hate each other whilst two divisions of Islam provide hate all over the Middle East whilst in Africa it seems that people are willing to commit mass murder of people belonging to a different tribe. In Great Britain the biggest racial divides are not just black and white but Indians and Muslims who both seem to hate each other too I meant hate was the wrong word to use. And please don't weaponise (sorry) the Cyprus situation. Bigotry is everywhere. I myself am still undecided about the Turkish/Greek dispute.
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 becky over the moon 18 Jan 20 9.53am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Hating may be wrong but that's the way of the world. According to your profile you're in Northern Cyprus so you should know all about one nationality hating another. Two sections of the same religion in Northern Ireland hate each other whilst two divisions of Islam provide hate all over the Middle East whilst in Africa it seems that people are willing to commit mass murder of people belonging to a different tribe. In Great Britain the biggest racial divides are not just black and white but Indians and Muslims who both seem to hate each other too It's not just black and white either, but black and black: Africans & West Indians or Africans from different tribes. It's always been that way for them.I remember back in the 60's a relative worked for the old STC, and they had to put African blacks and West Indian blacks in different workrooms - apparently the fights were vicious beyond belief, and any tool to hand would be used as a weapon!
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jan 20 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
I meant hate was the wrong word to use. And please don't weaponise (sorry) the Cyprus situation. Bigotry is everywhere. I myself am still undecided about the Turkish/Greek dispute. Not much to decide. Turkey invaded a sovereign Greek territory. What are the Greeks supposed to do - embrace diversity?
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| Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 18 Jan 20 2.05pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Not much to decide. Turkey invaded a sovereign Greek territory. What are the Greeks supposed to do - embrace diversity? Oh dear, I would check your historical facts before you comment. Firstly, Cyprus was and has not been a Greek land for at least a 1,000 years and even then it was part of the Byzantine Empire which had a Greek flavour as opposed to Ethnicity. Secondly, the Greek Cypriots allied themselves to the military junta in Greece to try and force the Turks off the island.
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| rob1969 Banstead Surrey 18 Jan 20 2.22pm |
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S Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I thought he was good value. Made some good points, especially this one 'Sorry, let me rewind. Any of the women. Is that better? Any woman. Because it's really important what your gender is or what your sexuality is rather than what your policies are' However all that said I do get why minorities who are discriminated against get annoyed when, people who don't or can't fully understand their point of view talk about or try to lecture others about something they have limited experience of. That actually applies to any subject, really. It's a tricky one though. Go too far left and you get positive discrimination and identity politics, too far right no incentive to equalise and complete dismissal that there is even an issue in the first place. I also fail to understand how people can claim to say the main reason 'Arry and Markle were 'driven' out of the country was or wasn't racism. I mean, how do you actually know? At least provide some sort of supporting argument. It's ridiculous. Press intrusion, backstory and her being an outsider with, shock horror, her own life and interests (much like Diana), is more likely to be the case. Unless someone can point me to some observable facts those are far more likely than racism as a single main contributing factor. Edited by SW19 CPFC (17 Jan 2020 11.35pm) Edited by SW19 CPFC (17 Jan 2020 11.38pm) Totally agree - never considered the racial aspect - to be honest I’ve known Italian and Greeks who have darker skin than her To me she is just a ver attractive lady. The problem is more to do with fact she appears to have joined the royal family expecting it to adapt to her needs and wants. Think she had put Harry in a very difficult position which not helping his personnel issues. . This more why she may have lost some public sympathy. Edited by rob1969 (18 Jan 2020 2.24pm)
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jan 20 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
Oh dear, I would check your historical facts before you comment. Firstly, Cyprus was and has not been a Greek land for at least a 1,000 years and even then it was part of the Byzantine Empire which had a Greek flavour as opposed to Ethnicity. Secondly, the Greek Cypriots allied themselves to the military junta in Greece to try and force the Turks off the island. Not at all my reading of it. Then again I'm half Greek Cypriot so unlikely to agree.
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