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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 22 Jan 20 6.45am Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

We lost a game and all the haters start to hate etc.

We are still having a good season overall.

The moaning gets very boring

I think Wilf, as our best player, still needs to be more mature. He's not a kid but still reacts like one sometimes.

We are having a good season overall.
But this is a thread on last nights game, people are saying we were sh*t, because we were.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 22 Jan 20 6.57am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

With no Andros or Ward the right side of the pitch has been imbalanced and it has been costing us and last night it was properly exploited. Hopefully both will be back fit for 1 February and we can perhaps return to 442 with two hard working players up top in Tosun and Ayew.

The failure to sign a right back or cover in the wide positions has cost us a lot of points this season in my mind.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 22 Jan 20 7.17am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

The problem is that it’s not just one bad day in the office.
Somebody needs to explain to Roy that it is within the rules to play within the opposition half when at home.
It really frustrates me than we fell behind he makes like for like replacements assuming that the tactics are fine but the problem lies with the players.
Why not stick Wickham up top with Tosun (instead of replacing him like for like) and put the Southampton defence under pressure and make them face back towards their own goal?
Why persist with Wilf in his narrow role on the left to engage in his personal feud with Ward Prowse which totally negated Wilf’s game?
In contrast Redmond was picking the ball in pockets across their front line and running at our defenders and I don’t see why Wilf can’t have the freedom to exploit in a similar vein.
Hodgson is so rigid and the fact that he seems to get a free pass because he has long experience baffles me.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Jan 20 7.56am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Soton exposed how slow our back four are and just passed their way through our midfield. The only good thing to come out of last night is that our next game is 10 days away.

Very disappointing performance maybe Roy is right that the games have finally caught up with them.

Anyway here's hoping that we are feeling fresh for Sheffield united and maybe have a few more players back.

COYP

 


One more point

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 22 Jan 20 7.59am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

With no Andros or Ward the right side of the pitch has been imbalanced and it has been costing us and last night it was properly exploited. Hopefully both will be back fit for 1 February and we can perhaps return to 442 with two hard working players up top in Tosun and Ayew.

The failure to sign a right back or cover in the wide positions has cost us a lot of points this season in my mind.

I agree, Kelly has been getting crucified the last few weeks but at the end of the day he shouldn’t even be playing there so we can’t get too angry at him.

Ayew is not half as affective as when played up front and he was leaving Kelly completely exposed last night. I still think we will be ok this season but we need our players back to get our balance back.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 22 Jan 20 8.01am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

The problem is that it’s not just one bad day in the office.
Somebody needs to explain to Roy that it is within the rules to play within the opposition half when at home.
It really frustrates me than we fell behind he makes like for like replacements assuming that the tactics are fine but the problem lies with the players.
Why not stick Wickham up top with Tosun (instead of replacing him like for like) and put the Southampton defence under pressure and make them face back towards their own goal?
Why persist with Wilf in his narrow role on the left to engage in his personal feud with Ward Prowse which totally negated Wilf’s game?
In contrast Redmond was picking the ball in pockets across their front line and running at our defenders and I don’t see why Wilf can’t have the freedom to exploit in a similar vein.
Hodgson is so rigid and the fact that he seems to get a free pass because he has long experience baffles me.


Do you really think that Roy stops Wilf from running in different directions ? This isn’t a computer game with Wilf controlled by a joy stick.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 22 Jan 20 8.05am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Soton exposed how slow our back four are and just passed their way through our midfield. The only good thing to come out of last night is that our next game is 10 days away.

Very disappointing performance maybe Roy is right that the games have finally caught up with them.

Anyway here's hoping that we are feeling fresh for Sheffield united and maybe have a few more players back.

COYP


Pace was a major factor last night, they completely outran us. They have it in abundance all over the pitch and our fastest player was Wilf Or Ayew and they are no where near as fast as Long. PVA, Schlupp and Townsend will bring some pace back into the squad.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 22 Jan 20 8.22am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I do think Wilf is being asked to play in a very rigid fashion and is not being given freedom to roam - otherwise he would so.
Hodgson’s rigid tactics do not get the best out of Zaha or Townsend.
Those who think Hodgson is the greatest manager in our history are entitled to their opinion.
For me I beg to differ and would like us to occasionally venture into the opposition half and not have the worst goalscoring record in the division.
I will always support the club, but in my opinion I can’t stand the way we are set up and despair at the football served up.
Being a fan for me doesn’t mean blind loyalty and inability to see faults staring one in the face.

 

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View Gribbo's Profile Gribbo Flag Bromley 22 Jan 20 8.30am Send a Private Message to Gribbo Add Gribbo as a friend

Playing dire football, lowest goals scored in the premier, 7 points off relegation and knocked out the cups by Colchester and Derby. And people keep saying we are having a good year. Squad is paper thin, we have the 20th largest wage bill in the world, that’s the world, not UK, the the ground is an absolute toilet. Good year, perhaps not.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 20 8.33am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Absolutely dreadful performance.
Excreta on stilts.
If there is a look termed 'Designer outrage' I was certainly wearing it last night.
I was hyperventilating,steam coming out of ears,and boiling with enmity as hot as a deep-fat fryer.
Disgraceful.

Edited by Willo (22 Jan 2020 8.38am)

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 22 Jan 20 8.34am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

Playing dire football, lowest goals scored in the premier, 7 points off relegation and knocked out the cups by Colchester and Derby. And people keep saying we are having a good year. Squad is paper thin, we have the 20th largest wage bill in the world, that’s the world, not UK, the the ground is an absolute toilet. Good year, perhaps not.

The grim reality. Fortunately we'll get Sorloth back from loan and everything will be alright

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 22 Jan 20 8.44am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I do think Wilf is being asked to play in a very rigid fashion and is not being given freedom to roam - otherwise he would so.
Hodgson’s rigid tactics do not get the best out of Zaha or Townsend.
Those who think Hodgson is the greatest manager in our history are entitled to their opinion.
For me I beg to differ and would like us to occasionally venture into the opposition half and not have the worst goalscoring record in the division.
I will always support the club, but in my opinion I can’t stand the way we are set up and despair at the football served up.
Being a fan for me doesn’t mean blind loyalty and inability to see faults staring one in the face.

I think this is a very fair statement.

Was talking with my brother on the way home last night and he thought Southampton looked like Barcelona against us and I was of the opinion that the obvious gap in quality was the fact that one team showed up and gave it a good go and one did not. Any time you have that imbalance in a top flight game it is going to make one team look much better than the other unless there is a huge and obvious gap in quality (Man City/Liverpool vs. x club).

Whether this is down to fatigue, tactics or an inability to motivate players is not something I have an answer for.

I am very grateful of the job Roy has done for us and he has been hung out to dry by the board in terms of playing staff but last night was very poor and especially hard to take mid week.

I understand his tactical approach to this season as frustrating as it is and although it has yielded a decent points amount so far I struggled to fathom what we were trying to achieve yesterday, if anything, after going 1-0 down with a 1/4 of the match gone at home.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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