It's an interesting point of view but for me, falls down on one key thing. You are essentially trying to make the country less appealing to Muslims on the premise that they won't come here and therefore that will prevent terrorist attacks.

The key issue here is that the terrorist attacks are all performed by people who are born here and are British. Therefore, your measures won't make the slightest difference. I'd argue that considering this is the case, making the existing people feel more unwelcome will create more of a divide and increase the likelihood of attacks.

Equally, your entire premise relies on the assumption that terrorism is inevitable and no amount of education, engagement etc will prevent it. This is where we fundamentally disagree as I believe that with all individuals who have performed terrorist attacks, there would have been several stages where engagement and appropriate help would've prevented them from happening.

Seriously?

Your belief that 'education, engagement' can work comes from a place of zero evidence and has been tried and proven a failure since mass migration started in WW2.

The idea that we haven't tried very very hard to integrate is just at odds with what happened. Europe is probably the most welcoming area in the world to foreigners than any other continent.....much to its damage.

Asking people to change identities doesn't work. The majority become more attached to them, not less......Anyone who's seen an Irish pub in England or the English in Spain knows that......You can't 'educate' people away from identity.

It's common sense that second and third generations are going to be more identitarian not less as the cultural differences between their two cultural inputs are stark....Not relatively minor like say the English and Polish.

It doesn't work.....It can only work with filtered success stories and so what you are in affect doing is giving over land and domains to different ethnicities and white flight will result at quicker and quicker rates.

That's what actually happens....Your 'integration and education' is meaningless and misguided.

Your politics has handed down a poisoned chalice to the next generations.

You asked me for solutions.....they aren't perfect and they do result in division.....but that's the point. The future is going to be nothing but that anyway....and the do gooders paved the way to hell because they turned their head away from reality in preference to warm worded falsehoods.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Feb 2020 1.17pm)

Making the country unappealing isn’t going to work as the crimes are committed by those born here. Your solutions don’t work and have less evidence base than mine.

It’s not about teaching them that. It’s about ensuring that they are educated and not disillusioned with society so they don’t believe the extremists beliefs and ideologies.

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How does being disillusioned cause knife/machete/bombing attacks? There have been millions of people in this country with good reason to be disillusioned, through poverty, unemployment, and lack of opportunity who didn’t resort to targeted slaughter.