Why?

Dan appears to have more specific information than me.

I was talking in general terms about the way not everything will always be as some wish you to see it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

It's a non discussion really as they were clearly Trump supporters, and the onus is on people grabbing desperately for any passing conspiracy theory to prove their latest one. Inevitably they fall apart with a 5 second Google search and instead of reflection, they're onto the next one. I hope for the President sake that he is not even more closely linked to what went down than is currently known.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Jan 2021 11.16pm)

It is very sad that a woman was shot and killed, but i am surprised it is only 1.
You have a violent mob storming the senate and house, breaking down doors and windows. The lawmakers of the country and cowering in fear in the main chamber. This woman and the people she was with, broke through one of the last barriers before the main chamber, climbed through the window they had broken.

There is a video of the incident out there, you can see the cop with his gun drawn, pointing at them, you cannot hear what he is saying, but i can only guess he is yelling warnings to not come any closer. So when she climbs through the broken window, with a backpack on mind you, what is a police officer to do in this unprecedented situation ? You shoot as a last resort in this situation, but when you do, you shoot to kill.

Many of these people will be made extreme examples of, some will go down for 20 years. They just dont know it yet, they think themselves part of some revolution, but a large part of any backing they might of had was lost when they invaded the capitol like this.

Another note, there was a guy roaming around videoing the protestors during and after, asking what they had done and who they were and where they were from. Quite a few admitted their crimes and gave their names and origins, on video. You cant make this up.

Several prominent members of the proud boys and QANON where caught on camera doing naughty things, you can be sure they will be targeted for maximum prosecution.

I'm not obliged to buy into an invented future where Joe Biden goes to war and it's somehow magically my fault, or I'm approving of it (because I wouldn't). This isn't minority Report!

Nor is it a given that I am even pleased that Joe Biden is President or imagine he's going to transform the countries fortunes in some profoundly positive way. I'm not opting into the Punch and Judy show thanks, the whole thing is a farce. I can quite easily believe that Trump is repugnant and largely without morals (though admittedly he has great comic timing and the ability to 'riff') without it meaning that I have some kind of undying love for ol' Joe Biden. Whether what replaces Trump is better or worse who knows, it was a decision for the American people (and outside of desperation and eye spinning conspiracies and lies a decision that was resoundingly made), and it will be what it will be. I do believe Trump has through his behaviour, knocked the moral fibre out a lot of people, but I have no particular love for any politician or party. More often than not it's many of the same puppet masters pulling their strings. At this point in time upping sticks and living in the forest sounds like a more sensible move than casting a vote.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Jan 2021 11.42pm)

Yes, thats exactly the image i had in my head mate, was on cam at the game and even Lineker pointed it out on the tv, shameful, then the non goal incident!

Now a police officer has died I think they might throw the book at them!Prison seems the perfect place for men calling themselves "boys" and "proud" to be fair!