If you had paid attention to the arguments about Brexit it was never about the vote itself. Brexit wasn't a General Election, which is our equivalent to the current US election and is the only time we ought to be asked for our opinion. We then delegate detailed decisions to the representatives we choose.

It was only ever about why the vote was held (UKIP) in the first place, the interference from overseas, the false promises about easy deals, and the way Parliament had the chance to deal with this but failed.

Too late to deal with Brexit, that is a lost battle for representative democracy. Not so this one in the USA. Trump cannot be allowed to steal this.

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I don't think that is true in Trump's case.

He has set a very poor example and actively encourages bad behaviour. Presidents set the tone. Dialing that back, which Biden will do, must improve things. Hopefully, he can reach out to Republicans are remind everyone that they are all Americans.

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Yeah i know that we have it ultimately we also need to have it so that there is voter ID you simply can't allow it to be the case that casted ballots via mail cannot be proven to be 100 percent genuine its wrong kids on uni campuses were registering and voting twice that shouldn't be allowed to happen. I'm not saying mail in voting is a bad thing but it shouldnt be used unless it is 100 percent accurate and safe. Also I have to ask why were republican observers made to watch from a 100 ft away while democrat observers were physically watching the ballots there might not be any voter fraud and I hope their isn't and if biden wins its legitimate but while there is uncertainty it allows for potential trouble from partisan groups. If you and somebody else won an undisclosed amount of money and agreed to split it would you be comfortable you got a fair share if they counted it and you couldn't see it. The answer is no and you would doubt it.

Unless he has evidence, any evidence - that is one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen and heard.

If there’s some mass fraud and conspiracy at play, how come republicans have done so well in the senate?

Even some republicans are already denouncing it. Some even talking about intervening. Says it all. Prick.

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Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Even Fox News is turning on him now. Saying he should never have discredited mail in ballots - has clearly led to republican vote suppression via that method. Which is yet another reason to explain the dem weighting of votes in every mail in ballot count. f*** me. Maybe he actually believes it - maybe it’s not actually his strategy, and he’s just reading Twitter conspiracy theories and running with them. Wouldn’t surprise me. Mental

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

If you’re using trumps words to construct that reply above it might be worth double checking elsewhere. If that’s your source.

I’m literally at the point now where it’s impossible to believe anything that he says.

If there’s mass fraud going on, they’ll win their court cases and it will all come to light.

Apparently the only publicised incident of voter fraud in Pennsylvania was from a republican voter trying to register his dead mother as an absentee voter. Now if that’s being picked up then you’d think a few of these fraudulent dem voters would too right? Even if it was done simply just for balance. Yet nothing as yet. Nada.

I’m fed up with seeing his tiny pursed little mouth and panda eyes. But if he’s right, he’ll win. And so he should. If he’s wrong, and no reason think he isn’t, then he’s the biggest political prick of the 21st century.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.