Tonnes of these allegations have already conclusively been proved to be baseless and have been thrown out. He's just throwing enough s*** at the wall to hope something sticks.

These are the latest comedic developments:

Trump spent $3 million for a vote recount in Wisconsin's largest county to support his baseless claim of ballot fraud but lost by even more than initially thought - [Link]

Trump’s Pennsylvania Appeal Rejected in Scathing Decision by His Own Appointee:

A federal appeals court has shot down the Trump campaign’s attempt to overturn the election result in Pennsylvania—with a judge appointed by the president writing the scathing decision.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Justice Stephanos Bibas wrote in a 21-page opinion issued Friday - [Link]

The Pennsylvania development is even more unfortunate really, as it has nothing to do with fraud, and instead attempts to conjure up a technicality to right off votes. It's likely to be thrown out at State level Supreme Court, as rationally speaking it would be far more noteworthy or unconstitutional to throw out millions of votes. If it reached the Supreme Court, I can't image them giving credence to this. Some are just far more concerned with outcome than democracy. It's more of an opinion anyway as the case is at a higher court, plus Pennsylvania already certified the presidential election on the 24th [Link] There would be endless legal issues around decertifying an election result And if that did happen ironically they couldn't bring in new electors anyway on account that if the state election isn't certified they can't get seated to make such a decision in the first place. Chicken and egg. The state legislature adjourns on November 30th until next year.

Trump has posted countless videos and posts with regard to fraud that are provably baseless with a 5 second search, and yet people are so invested in him and caught in their ideologically bubble that they just don't factor in that a compulsive liar might not be telling them the truth. Some sneer at journalism and mainstream media, but there's nothing particularly intelligent, real or complete in getting news from one tone twitter accounts or Q-Drops either. Right now, the conspiracies are failing in the courts.

Edited by BlueJay (28 Nov 2020 5.22pm)

Yep. ‘I agree with some of this’

Hence the cherries

Er - the onus is on the accuser here to have enough evidence to prove there is a case to answer. Why bother wasting time and money on something that (in most cases so far) didn’t happen as you know it’s going to get thrown out before even getting to that stage.

Makes sense to me. Also you have to remember these are pre court... if a court decides to proceed with a case then they’ll defend themselves. Not before, it’s just not how it works. But obviously you’ll look for anything to maintain your beliefs

Also - ‘show ballots’

What? Only in dem win states? All states? States where trump won? Where he came from behind to win? Is every republicans vote kosher? Every single ballot? To whom are these ballots being shown? Someone you approve of otherwise you won’t accept the outcome? The madness literally never ends

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

A few more facts in the Pennsylvania case -

[Link]

The case is already with the Penn Supreme Court and so what a lower judge thinks is not really relevant. It has no legal standing and sounds like it's dead in the water at State level... time will tell.

"In their suit, Mr. Kelly and Mr. Parnell are arguing that state lawmakers violated Pennsylvania’s Constitution by adopting Act 77 last year, which expanded the mail-in balloting option to let all qualified voters to vote by mail without an excuse. They allege that absentee voting — which required an excuse from a set of allowed reasons — was rebranded as no-excuse mail-in voting “absent any constitutional authority.”

The Republican-controlled state Legislature responded, in legal filings, that the case should be dismissed because Act 77 didn’t alter the requirements of who constitutes a qualified voter, and that the Legislature is constitutionally authorized to prescribe the method by which those electors may cast their votes.

Lawyers for the state and governor noted that Act 77 said all constitutional challenges were to be brought within 180 days of effective date, which “came and went without any facial challenge to the constitutionality of Act 77’s provisions.”

“At no time during the 180-day period, the run-up to the primary election, or the runup to the general election did Petitioners (or anyone else) claim in any proceeding that Act 77 was unconstitutional on its fact,” the state’s lawyers wrote, noting that Mr. Kelly and Mr. Parnell ran in the 2020 primary and general election, “presumably garnering votes cast on the same mail-in ballots that they now claim to be unconstitutional.”"

Like I said Biden will not go after Trump that doesn't stop others but he has enough sense to see that it's bad politics for him to be seen doing it.

The Democrats wanted to defeat Trump they done that so do the smart thing and declare victory like George Bush senior did in Iraq and then get the hell out.

The alternative is a tar pit, who knows what might float to the surface. There are many republicans who still believe Nixon was innocent and should not have resigned, you are not going to change minds about Trump.

Even if the Democrats produce a video of Trump taking a bribe from Putin whilst snorting cocaine and doing the do with a hooker many people would simply not believe it. All you do is keep the hate alive.

Trump like Corbyn is yesterday's man, Biden knows his energies are better spent elsewhere.

As they often say in the movies "Don't do it Joe he's not worth it."

Edited by Badger11 (28 Nov 2020 6.48pm)

One more point

I agree with this really. Realistically he should, but it would be counter to how he wishes to portray himself and wouldn't really gain him or the Democrats anything. Better to let Trump get dealt with at the State level due to the financial and criminal cases he will no longer be protected from post presidency.

It's worth remembering though, that Trump has and continues to do nothing to pass on the presidential baton in a dignified banner, to the point where he denies and tries to circumvent the result of the election itself (and in fact informed us prior that he'd only accept the result if he won). You get what you give. Though as I say, that is best demonstrated here by the States, to allow for a less tabloid Presidency for a change.

Edited by BlueJay (28 Nov 2020 7.53pm)