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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Sep 20 7.46pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01


No, Proud Boys is a far right neo fascist group that has a track record of violence, intimidation and spreading conspiracy theories.

You can hate antifa all you want (as I do) but you don't give these guys a pass as they're violent thugs just in different packaging.

Either Fascist or not.
Neo fascist means what exactly. I never get the actual reason it's used.
Does it mean part time, mini, nearly real ones.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Sep 20 9.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Either Fascist or not.
Neo fascist means what exactly. I never get the actual reason it's used.
Does it mean part time, mini, nearly real ones.

Neo, means new.

The Proud boys are civic nationalists but it doesn't matter to normies, they just believe what they get told. So many people get called fascists today it's hard to keep track.....basically if you're against the way globalism has gone and don't wave a rainbow flag you're a fascist today.

As for what gets called fascism is in the new context you'd have to watch PA streams on Youtube or Dangerfield streams and make your own mind up....He did a really good one today.

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DOA (Daughter of Albion) and Laura Towler is also pretty popular.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Sep 2020 9.27pm)

 


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Originally posted by cryrst

Either Fascist or not.
Neo fascist means what exactly. I never get the actual reason it's used.
Does it mean part time, mini, nearly real ones.

They ain't fascist. In order to be Fascist you need to harbor a very specific set of beliefs and actions. You need to believe that your race is superior to others (proud boys may have racist members but do have members of many different races and religions wouldn't be allowed if it was fascist) Believe in state control of media and propaganda (proud boys believe in less government control) Actively attempt to influence politics by violence and remove government officials they dont agree with undemicratically (nope) The only group that resembles fascism is ironically antifa. They dont believe in race superiority but believe in a kind of moral superiority and that all who dont feel their way are halting progress to their utopia. DANGEROUS.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Neo, means new.

The Proud boys are civic nationalists but it doesn't matter to normies, they just believe what they get told. So many people get called fascists today it's hard to keep track.....basically if you're against the way globalism has gone and don't wave a rainbow flag you're a fascist today.

As for what gets called fascism is in the new context you'd have to watch PA streams on Youtube or Dangerfield streams and make your own mind up....He did a really good one today.

[Link]

DOA (Daughter of Albion) and Laura Towler is also pretty popular.

[Link]

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Sep 2020 9.27pm)

Here is another link which just might set the record rather straighter! Whatever epithet you wish to attribute to the "Proud Boys" and their fellow travellers it would be totally incongruous to suggest their activities are intended to restore peace and tranquillity to the USA:-

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Sep 20 9.29pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Even in Liberal New York State, Biden & Harris are stinking the place out, thanks to those two cretins De Blasio (a Wisbech fave)& Cuomo.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Sep 20 10.16pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Here is another link which just might set the record rather straighter! Whatever epithet you wish to attribute to the "Proud Boys" and their fellow travellers it would be totally incongruous to suggest their activities are intended to restore peace and tranquillity to the USA:-

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Your link doesn't work for me, though that's probably just this particular browser I'm using.

Reading the link though it says 'civic nationalism is white nationalism'....something that doesn't make sense to me as that's like saying that liberals are socialists....yeah both are on the left but they aren't the same.

Regardless, to answer your insinuation of the Proud boys they are a reaction.
Gavin McInnes started them basically as a bit of a 'west is best boy's drinking club' but they quickly ended up acting as a body guard for right wing events.

Now they are essentially the physical reaction to Antifa. If the left hadn't been trying to physically shut down events it's unlikely that they would still exist.

They aren't white nationalists but white nationalists will exist within them. Proud Boys are quite clear about who they are and what they believe in.....there's no mystery to it.

As for what leftists think....well their activists have so little interest in honesty it barely needs addressing. They will call night day if it suits them.


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2020 2.06am)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Your link doesn't work for me, though that's probably just this particular browser I'm using.

Reading the link though it says 'civic nationalism is white nationalism'....something that doesn't make sense to me as that's like saying that liberals are socialists....yeah both are on the left but they aren't the same.

Regardless, to answer your insinuation of the Proud boys they are a reaction.
Gavin McInnes started them basically as a bit of a 'west is best boy's drinking club' but they quickly ended up acting as a body guard for right wing events.

Now they are essentially the physical reaction to Antifa. If the left hadn't been trying to physically shut down events it's unlikely that they would still exist.

They aren't white nationalists but white nationalists will exist within them. Proud Boys are quite clear about who they are and what they believe in.....there's no mystery to it.

As for what leftists think....well their activists have so little interest in honesty it barely needs addressing. They will call night day if it suits them.


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2020 2.06am)

As you need to read the reasoning and not just the headline I suggest you try another browser. Google works.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As you need to read the reasoning and not just the headline I suggest you try another browser. Google works.

You will have to forgive me as I'm rather attached to the particular browser set up I have at the moment.

Taking on another browser just to read one article seems a bit much.

If I made a statement you feel is inaccurate you are feel to counter it.

 


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To lighten the mood a bit Billie jean goes so well over this.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You will have to forgive me as I'm rather attached to the particular browser set up I have at the moment.

Taking on another browser just to read one article seems a bit much.

If I made a statement you feel is inaccurate you are feel to counter it.

The only way I could do that is to cut and paste the whole article, or attempt a precis. Surely someone in your household has access to another browser?

Maybe you only want a browser that filters the content so you only get to read opinions that mirror your own?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The only way I could do that is to cut and paste the whole article, or attempt a precis. Surely someone in your household has access to another browser?

Maybe you only want a browser that filters the content so you only get to read opinions that mirror your own?

Ah, cerebral hygiene re-appears on this site. About time.

 

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3 weeks have passed since anyone posted anything about what is probably the most important election of recent times. I wonder why that is?

With the first debate due tomorrow and the NYT publishing their expose on Trump's tax returns, which confirms the many rumours and hard information available in jurisdictions like our own where Company returns are public, there are going to be many questions to be answered.

With Trump trotting out his lame, and overused response, that this is "fake news" and that the IRS are very unfair on him this, isn't going to play well.

Pelosi skewered him today by suggesting he was a potential national security risk as it seems he has covered $300 million of debt with his personal guarantees. Being an indebted businessman and then being POTUS has it's consequences, and those questions are going to hit the headlines.

The teflon President will have a hard time rinsing this stain away. When nurses and firefighters are paying more tax than someone like Trump they are not going to be very forgiving, especially at the moment.

Tuesday night will be fun.

 

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