Fair enough. I understand your sentiments. I don't hold presidents in as high esteem as you do. Many have done plenty of illegal things and some have just been morally bankrupt, even downright stupid or just puppets. Make up your own mind as to who they are.

Red and Blue Army!

It seems that last nights debate was somewhat unsavoury.
Trump does himself no favours when he is like that.
Only my opinion of course but I think that -
1. The UK will suffer if Biden gets in - he loves the EU and whilst we will leave anyway he will use Northern Ireland and tariffs to make life difficult for us.
2. His party says they want racial equality whilst they are currently in charge of pretty much every state where race and violence are running riot and I have no idea why Trump doesn't play this card every minute of the day.
3. The US will become a basket case very quickly if Biden gets in - he is merely a puppet for those pulling the strings and if he wins he won't be in real charge for more than a day!
4.Trump can be a real idiot but I genuinely think he cares about America and is the lesser of the two evils.
We are not the only Country where the political classes are now the laughing stock of the world.
Start running these Countries as businesses whilst having a social conscience and suddenly there would be more money available to help everyone not just a few.

So essentially you're fine with election interference when it's from the side you agree with.

Complete hypocrisy.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Nonsense.

Exactly the same standards apply to who-ever might be involved. It just happens to be Trump who is right now but if a Democratic POTUS adopted these tactics then they would receive, and deserve, exactly the same criticism.

The truth is, of course, that no other POTUS, be they Republican or Democrat, has even tried this kind of thing. Trump has taken the office of President to a new low.

Any newspaper who is in possession of information which enables the voters to be aware of the truth about their choice for POTUS has a duty to reveal it, who-ever is involved.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I find the focus upon tax quite amusing considering the corporates that the Democrats are in bed with. It's nothing but politics and false principles.

As for the information itself, the truth or lies of what's presented is one thing. The timing of the release itself is political and hence deliberate election interference. And considering the huge play the Democrats have made upon interference it's yet another example of their pure one eyed hypocrisy.

It's ok when they do it.

As for Trump as a person....I don't really care that much. What I care about is how he runs the economy, his pushback against far left ideology and how which president in the office affects the UK with the EU.

So, essentially you find yourself against the British parliament on that. As not only have the Democrats looked to interfere with the Brexit deal they have openly come out against the British in relation to the EU and trading.

Whereas Trump is far more keen, both on Brexit and a trade deal.

So, once again, I find you are against the national interest.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Sep 2020 11.18am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Trump isn't a nice person...accepted. However, he isn't a dictator.

And I'll say this Steely....when it does come to 'bullying dictators', the left are where the real authoritarians are right now....not on the right.

Biden is a weak and feeble man, and what stands behind him is a wrecking ball.

You might like that...and in some ways it also suits my side. But a large part of me still doesn't enjoy looking into a potential abyss.

I'm a tad conflicted in that way....Then again, if Trump wins it'll happen anyway so feck it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Sep 2020 11.28am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)