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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Feb 20 4.41pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

No

He should go on holiday. My mate had a chat with Wilf this morning going through Gatwick on his way to the Caribbean

Pardon my scepticism, IF, your mate 'saw' Wilf going through LGW when there were hardly any flights leaving, WHY has CPFC posted up that Wilf & a few others were attending a community project TODAY?

Just asking.

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Edited by eagleman13 (10 Feb 2020 4.44pm)

 


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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 10 Feb 20 4.47pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by SurbsEagle

The reason I say cherry picked is because we have had 1 fully fit 'premier league' quality forward player for the whole season in Wilf and even he hasn't turned up this season yet. I love Ayew but realistically he shouldn't be the lead striker at any premier league team. We've had no fit right winger and only have defensive minded midfielders available to us. Yet we're 14th in the league, we've won more games this season than Arsenal and have given some of the top teams in this league a tough game. As much as we are 6 points off the relegation zone - we're also 6 points off 7th in the league.

Yet people are suggesting that Roy should be sacked when there probably isn't a manager available to us at this stage in the season that would do a better job. Ridiculous. If we are winless in the next 4 games, then and only then should we perhaps worry.


Edited by SurbsEagle (10 Feb 2020 2.53pm)

By then it will be too late given our run-in. And why do we have such few quality attacking players and loads of defesnive midfielders?

 

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View SurbsEagle's Profile SurbsEagle Flag 10 Feb 20 5.23pm Send a Private Message to SurbsEagle Add SurbsEagle as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

By then it will be too late given our run-in. And why do we have such few quality attacking players and loads of defesnive midfielders?

Good question, I don't know the factual answers to the question - however, none of the answers I come up with can be placed under the blame of the manager. And because of that, I cannot see any positive reasons why Roy should be sacked at this point in the season. No other manager, available now, will get better results out of this team than Roy from now until the end of the season, in my opinion.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Online Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 10 Feb 20 6.31pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

I did a super approximate count.

25 yes votes, 56 no votes. So approximately 70/30 split.

I ignored major waffle and anything where a verdict wasn't obvious quickly.

I lost track part way through but couldn't be arsed to start again. my 70/30 split would be about right, unless the "Hodgson out" crowd are being more verbose.

I would guess the answer to: do you want Roy in charge at the start of next season would be 60% yes, 40% no.

The next 4 matches are, as others have said, huge.

 


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jeeagles Flag 10 Feb 20 7.06pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I did a super approximate count.

25 yes votes, 56 no votes. So approximately 70/30 split.

I ignored major waffle and anything where a verdict wasn't obvious quickly.

I lost track part way through but couldn't be arsed to start again. my 70/30 split would be about right, unless the "Hodgson out" crowd are being more verbose.

I would guess the answer to: do you want Roy in charge at the start of next season would be 60% yes, 40% no.

The next 4 matches are, as others have said, huge.

I think the Newcastle game is huge Roy. If we lose I think that's 10 games without a win. No manager survives that... and in those 10 games, he'd have made no attempt to change his losing formula.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 10 Feb 20 7.37pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

This post has a substantial shareholding in erudition and sagacity.

very correct sir.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Feb 20 7.43pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I think the Newcastle game is huge Roy. If we lose I think that's 10 games without a win. No manager survives that... and in those 10 games, he'd have made no attempt to change his losing formula.

It will actually be no wins in 8 games and only 1 win in 12 games.

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 10 Feb 20 7.47pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I think the Newcastle game is huge Roy. If we lose I think that's 10 games without a win. No manager survives that... and in those 10 games, he'd have made no attempt to change his losing formula.

I'm pretty sure Alan Pardew did.

Just saying mind.

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 10 Feb 20 7.51pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by SurbsEagle

The reason I say cherry picked is because we have had 1 fully fit 'premier league' quality forward player for the whole season in Wilf and even he hasn't turned up this season yet. I love Ayew but realistically he shouldn't be the lead striker at any premier league team. We've had no fit right winger and only have defensive minded midfielders available to us. Yet we're 14th in the league, we've won more games this season than Arsenal and have given some of the top teams in this league a tough game. As much as we are 6 points off the relegation zone - we're also 6 points off 7th in the league.

Yet people are suggesting that Roy should be sacked when there probably isn't a manager available to us at this stage in the season that would do a better job. Ridiculous. If we are winless in the next 4 games, then and only then should we perhaps worry.


Edited by SurbsEagle (10 Feb 2020 2.53pm)

It is frustratingly futile trying to get common sense into the minds of some of our fans, but you've at least given it a very good go.

 

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jeeagles Flag 10 Feb 20 8.07pm

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

I'm pretty sure Alan Pardew did.

Just saying mind.

Just checked. He was sacked with 1 win in 11. The win was a 3-0 victory against Southampton. The last result was a 1-0 home defeat to Chelsea with the line up:

Hennessey, Kelly, Dann, Delaney, Ward, Mcarthur, Ledley, Cabaye, Zaha, Puncheon, Benteke.

Bench: Speroni, Fryers, Townsend, Campbell, Lee, Mutch, Husin.

I miss Cabaye and a slightly younger Puncheon, but we probably have a better team now and almost certainly have a better squad.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 10 Feb 20 8.38pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Slightly off topic, but I would guess whether you are pro or anti Hodgson it would have to be acknowledged that Hodgson is not a long term solution.
Assuming we do manage to stay up under him what then?
If he signs a one year deal how does this impact on long term transfer policy.
Hodgson has shown an aversion to using young players who are not experienced in the Premier League.
Does this mean more Cahill/McCarthy type signings?
There’s little purpose in signing players that he won’t use , but at the same time the club has to have an eye of life beyond Hodgson for the manager who succeeds him.
The best solution for me would to have a clean break with Hodgson at the end of the season.
However, with the uncertainty around the ownership at the moment it may be the club elect for a short term fix of giving him another year.

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 10 Feb 20 8.44pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Slightly off topic, but I would guess whether you are pro or anti Hodgson it would have to be acknowledged that Hodgson is not a long term solution.
Assuming we do manage to stay up under him what then?
If he signs a one year deal how does this impact on long term transfer policy.
Hodgson has shown an aversion to using young players who are not experienced in the Premier League.
Does this mean more Cahill/McCarthy type signings?
There’s little purpose in signing players that he won’t use , but at the same time the club has to have an eye of life beyond Hodgson for the manager who succeeds him.
The best solution for me would to have a clean break with Hodgson at the end of the season.
However, with the uncertainty around the ownership at the moment it may be the club elect for a short term fix of giving him another year.

I think our transfer policy won't change regardless of who the manager is.

 

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