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dynamicdick Dormansland 22 Mar 20 4.56pm
Originally posted by cryrst Didnt take corbyn long to try to score points. NHS bed bashing. This tnuc needs to go away forever. My thoughts entirely, Mr Corbyn you need to watch Andy Burnham on Question Time last week to see how you need to act. Bring back Brolin
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dynamicdick

Dormansland 22 Mar 20 4.56pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Didnt take corbyn long to try to score points.
NHS bed bashing.
This tnuc needs to go away forever.

My thoughts entirely, Mr Corbyn you need to watch Andy Burnham on Question Time last week to see how you need to act.

Bring back Brolin

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Stirlingsays 22 Mar 20 5.24pm
Here is a video on how well Japan is coping with this virus. Also an island nation country and one that is far nearer to China. There are lots of lessons to be learned. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2020 5.25pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

22 Mar 20 5.24pm

Here is a video on how well Japan is coping with this virus.

Also an island nation country and one that is far nearer to China. There are lots of lessons to be learned.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2020 5.25pm)

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SavoyTruffle 22 Mar 20 6.16pm
Originally posted by cryrst Didnt take corbyn long to try to score points. NHS bed bashing. This tnuc needs to go away forever. I mean he ran an entire campaign on the basis that there weren’t enough resources in the NHS, of course now the seams are starting to rip he is going to double down this viewpoint. Prediction: by this time next month, people asking questions about decisions made in March will be branded in large parts of the media and popular discourse as selfish and disrespectful of the dead, scoring petty political points off a national tragedy. Meanwhile the people who allowed this to fester will be shielded by the press.
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SavoyTruffle

22 Mar 20 6.16pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Didnt take corbyn long to try to score points.
NHS bed bashing.
This tnuc needs to go away forever.

I mean he ran an entire campaign on the basis that there weren’t enough resources in the NHS, of course now the seams are starting to rip he is going to double down this viewpoint.

Prediction: by this time next month, people asking questions about decisions made in March will be branded in large parts of the media and popular discourse as selfish and disrespectful of the dead, scoring petty political points off a national tragedy.

Meanwhile the people who allowed this to fester will be shielded by the press.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Mar 20 6.18pm
Originally posted by Willo I have not perused the link, however I had heard on the radio that in normal times the number of deaths in the UK from flu and related illnesses over a same period is around 8,000 and our experts have asserted that the Covid-19 death toll could rise to 20,000 as a minimum and could greatly exceed this number if people do not heed the advice. The thing with this disease is it multiplies. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 22 Mar 20 6.18pm

Originally posted by Willo

I have not perused the link, however I had heard on the radio that in normal times the number of deaths in the UK from flu and related illnesses over a same period is around 8,000 and our experts have asserted that the Covid-19 death toll could rise to 20,000 as a minimum and could greatly exceed this number if people do not heed the advice.

The thing with this disease is it multiplies.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Mar 20 6.19pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Just out of interest, does anyone on here yet either have it or have a loved one who has it? A mother and son 2 roads away have it. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 22 Mar 20 6.19pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Just out of interest, does anyone on here yet either have it or have a loved one who has it?

A mother and son 2 roads away have it.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Mar 20 6.22pm
Originally posted by Goal Machine A best mate of mine and his wife are doctors within the NHS and working flat out in the London intensive care units. They would be mortified to read your opinion that the current pandemic is no worse than your standard flu. The NHS is almost at breaking point and they are treating patients who picked up the virus 10 days ago. It was barely on our radar 10 days ago. This will get drastically worse to the point that there won’t be room to treat the sick. This is serious and needs to be treated as such by everybody. Not respecting the governments request to stay at home is wreckless and selfish. The next wave of this virus is going to shock a lot of people. It could be as bad as Italy if people take chances socialisingbin holiday mode. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 22 Mar 20 6.22pm

Originally posted by Goal Machine

A best mate of mine and his wife are doctors within the NHS and working flat out in the London intensive care units. They would be mortified to read your opinion that the current pandemic is no worse than your standard flu.

The NHS is almost at breaking point and they are treating patients who picked up the virus 10 days ago. It was barely on our radar 10 days ago. This will get drastically worse to the point that there won’t be room to treat the sick.

This is serious and needs to be treated as such by everybody. Not respecting the governments request to stay at home is wreckless and selfish.

The next wave of this virus is going to shock a lot of people. It could be as bad as Italy if people take chances socialisingbin holiday mode.

COYP

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SavoyTruffle 22 Mar 20 6.28pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Here is a video on how well Japan is coping with this virus. Also an island nation country and one that is far nearer to China. There are lots of lessons to be learned. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2020 5.25pm) Ridiculous, they have coped well as a result of them aggressively identifying clusters and containing the spread. They learnt their lesson from the first SARS outbreak. German has huge levels of migration and haven’t seen anyway near the level of deaths we have vs cases. This is a result of aggressive testing identifying actual cases and quarantining as early as possible.
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SavoyTruffle

22 Mar 20 6.28pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Here is a video on how well Japan is coping with this virus.

Also an island nation country and one that is far nearer to China. There are lots of lessons to be learned.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2020 5.25pm)

Ridiculous, they have coped well as a result of them aggressively identifying clusters and containing the spread. They learnt their lesson from the first SARS outbreak.

German has huge levels of migration and haven’t seen anyway near the level of deaths we have vs cases. This is a result of aggressive testing identifying actual cases and quarantining as early as possible.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Mar 20 6.38pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman The next wave of this virus is going to shock a lot of people. It could be as bad as Italy if people take chances socialisingbin holiday mode. With the closing of pubs,restaurants, gyms etc and high street and other shops deciding to close temporarily, I believe the stark reality is hitting home to the population at large. Today I was informed a cash point was taped up as it is deemed that handling money could add to the spread of Covid-19 and a shop in which I entered was only accepting card transactions. I hear that petrol pumps are also deemed a risk.I fear additional draconian measures could be down the track.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Mar 20 6.38pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The next wave of this virus is going to shock a lot of people. It could be as bad as Italy if people take chances socialisingbin holiday mode.

With the closing of pubs,restaurants, gyms etc and high street and other shops deciding to close temporarily, I believe the stark reality is hitting home to the population at large.

Today I was informed a cash point was taped up as it is deemed that handling money could add to the spread of Covid-19 and a shop in which I entered was only accepting card transactions. I hear that petrol pumps are also deemed a risk.I fear additional draconian measures could be down the track.

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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 22 Mar 20 6.53pm
You watch the news and you see beaches rammed, snowden rammed, markets rammed, parks rammed. This clearly is going to get a whole lot worse and soon. We need it to start pissing down again
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Bexley Eagle

Bexley Kent 22 Mar 20 6.53pm

You watch the news and you see beaches rammed, snowden rammed, markets rammed, parks rammed. This clearly is going to get a whole lot worse and soon. We need it to start pissing down again

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cryrst The garden of England 22 Mar 20 7.09pm
Originally posted by SavoyTruffle I mean he ran an entire campaign on the basis that there weren’t enough resources in the NHS, of course now the seams are starting to rip he is going to double down this viewpoint. Prediction: by this time next month, people asking questions about decisions made in March will be branded in large parts of the media and popular discourse as selfish and disrespectful of the dead, scoring petty political points off a national tragedy. Meanwhile the people who allowed this to fester will be shielded by the press. So are you saying corbyn is correct then. That we should spend billions and billions every year just in case we get a 1 in a 100 year pandemic. The private beds are filling the gaps and at a far lower cost than 99 years of not needed hospitals and resources. We had enough ventilators for 99 years (see above) So a lockdown in Italy and Spain hasnt worked. Why would it here. All you would get is people criticising because their liberty has been taken. If the idiot public of the country took advice we may not be going down the road of Europe. The government has been strategic with scientific advice. That is all they can do because no one has been here before.
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cryrst

The garden of England 22 Mar 20 7.09pm

Originally posted by SavoyTruffle

I mean he ran an entire campaign on the basis that there weren’t enough resources in the NHS, of course now the seams are starting to rip he is going to double down this viewpoint.

Meanwhile the people who allowed this to fester will be shielded by the press.

So are you saying corbyn is correct then.
That we should spend billions and billions every year just in case we get a 1 in a 100 year pandemic. The private beds are filling the gaps and at a far lower cost than 99 years of not needed hospitals and resources.
We had enough ventilators for 99 years (see above)
So a lockdown in Italy and Spain hasnt worked. Why would it here. All you would get is people criticising because their liberty has been taken.
If the idiot public of the country took advice we may not be going down the road of Europe.
The government has been strategic with scientific advice. That is all they can do because no one has been here before.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 22 Mar 20 7.13pm
Originally posted by Bexley Eagle You watch the news and you see beaches rammed, snowden rammed, markets rammed, parks rammed. This clearly is going to get a whole lot worse and soon. We need it to start pissing down again[/quote] Agreed, summer can't come soon enough ! Old, Ungifted and White
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Stirlingsays 22 Mar 20 7.20pm
Originally posted by SavoyTruffle Ridiculous, they have coped well as a result of them aggressively identifying clusters and containing the spread. They learnt their lesson from the first SARS outbreak. German has huge levels of migration and haven’t seen anyway near the level of deaths we have vs cases. This is a result of aggressive testing identifying actual cases and quarantining as early as possible. It isn't ridiculous at all, however it's true that identifying clusters and containing the spread is a main part of several reasons.....However this is standard practice in first world countries. The video reveals several truths why they are faring a lot better. Germany has many current cases of the virus at 24, 806....96 deaths and 83 million people. Japan....which is close to China....has 1086 cases and 36 deaths.....It has 126 million people and Tokyo is one of the most populated cities on earth. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2020 7.24pm) Attachment: Germany1.JPG (40.08Kb) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

22 Mar 20 7.20pm

Originally posted by SavoyTruffle

Ridiculous, they have coped well as a result of them aggressively identifying clusters and containing the spread. They learnt their lesson from the first SARS outbreak.

It isn't ridiculous at all, however it's true that identifying clusters and containing the spread is a main part of several reasons.....However this is standard practice in first world countries.

The video reveals several truths why they are faring a lot better.

Germany has many current cases of the virus at 24, 806....96 deaths and 83 million people.

Japan....which is close to China....has 1086 cases and 36 deaths.....It has 126 million people and Tokyo is one of the most populated cities on earth.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2020 7.24pm)

Attachment: Germany1.JPG (40.08Kb)

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