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jeeagles Flag 26 May 20 2.36pm

Pretty sure that this message sent out by Labour would create more damaging to lockdown compliance that Cumming's original trip.

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 26 May 20 3.10pm

59% of the public think he should resign, up from 52% from last week, seems he didn"t win the garden interview battle after all!

 

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 26 May 20 3.13pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

I'm going to bookend my comment from the start of this episode, and then (I hope) say no more on the matter.

I do love that DC has been living rent-free in the heads of the many remainiac anti-Brexit mouth-frothers, both on here and on the leftwaffe social media generally.

"Oh no, it's nothing to do with Brexit! Steve Baker LOLZ". I mean Baker absolutely loathes DC, as would be evident if you've read either of Shipman's two books. In fact, the ERG in general detest DC - what was it he referred to them as? Something witty conflating Brexit with Fossils or Dinosaurs. That's exactly why Peter Bone et al. were not involved in the campaign, and instead formed "Grassroots Out". There's a lot of (as ever) tribal politics at play here - DC does a good job of generally being hated, but getting the job done. He's not in it to make friends, unlike Boris (who genuinely has problems with people hating him).

DC has exposed the rabid pack of wolves that we call the media, without really trying, and sent the twittersphere into paroxysms of "Brexit MaN bAd!" rage. Again, without really trying. All that remains now (and it will happen IMO), is for the police to confirm he acted within the law, and proportionately. Had I had the same resources available to me, including two young (lowest risk-category) nieces on-hand to take on care of my child had we both been hospitalised (given DC has pre-existing conditions, a plausible risk), I would also have taken that choice. This guy war-games for a living. It's literally his bread and water. Evaluate scenarios, determine best outcome, weigh up compromises, risks. I doubt he's ever done anything half-cock. If his critical reasoning led him to this outcome as being optimal in terms of infection risk etc, then so be it. Criticise him for being a parent looking out for his family. If he was flagrantly breaking the rules, he would have gone to his Uncle's funeral. He didn't.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. You hate him. He's literally Hitler. A Svengali (cringe). The devil incarnate. The more he's harrassed and persecuted, the more he comes out on top. You won't see it in overtly public acts of revenge like denying Bercow a peerage (yum).... “I don't think I am arrogant. I don't know very much about very much. Mr Grieve … we'll see what he's right about.” Where is Grieve now? Nowhere. He's a nobody with a tinge of betrayal and treachery lingering around him. You'll see the BBC under his microscope soon. Perhaps some tightening on media conduct and clarity on "public interest".

DC's not a "tory spin doctor" - he couldn't give a stuff about image, public impressions, or superficial appearances. He wants to get s*** done. If he ruffles feathers along the way, he'll give zero f***s (and thank god for that). He's fully intending to rip up the deep state and BBC supporting act. I can't wait.

Rent. Free.

Classic Dom.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 26 May 20 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH


Why does that matter? He’s the prime minister’s special advisor and has a direct role in designing policy, including the lockdown measures. He has undermined his position and now people will wonder why on Earth they should continue to listen to the government.

Would you be so up in arms if Corbyn had won the election and his special advisor (Karl Marx) had been caught bending the rules?

 

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 26 May 20 3.16pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

I'm going to bookend my comment from the start of this episode, and then (I hope) say no more on the matter.

I do love that DC has been living rent-free in the heads of the many remainiac anti-Brexit mouth-frothers, both on here and on the leftwaffe social media generally.

"Oh no, it's nothing to do with Brexit! Steve Baker LOLZ". I mean Baker absolutely loathes DC, as would be evident if you've read either of Shipman's two books. In fact, the ERG in general detest DC - what was it he referred to them as? Something witty conflating Brexit with Fossils or Dinosaurs. That's exactly why Peter Bone et al. were not involved in the campaign, and instead formed "Grassroots Out". There's a lot of (as ever) tribal politics at play here - DC does a good job of generally being hated, but getting the job done. He's not in it to make friends, unlike Boris (who genuinely has problems with people hating him).

DC has exposed the rabid pack of wolves that we call the media, without really trying, and sent the twittersphere into paroxysms of "Brexit MaN bAd!" rage. Again, without really trying. All that remains now (and it will happen IMO), is for the police to confirm he acted within the law, and proportionately. Had I had the same resources available to me, including two young (lowest risk-category) nieces on-hand to take on care of my child had we both been hospitalised (given DC has pre-existing conditions, a plausible risk), I would also have taken that choice. This guy war-games for a living. It's literally his bread and water. Evaluate scenarios, determine best outcome, weigh up compromises, risks. I doubt he's ever done anything half-cock. If his critical reasoning led him to this outcome as being optimal in terms of infection risk etc, then so be it. Criticise him for being a parent looking out for his family. If he was flagrantly breaking the rules, he would have gone to his Uncle's funeral. He didn't.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. You hate him. He's literally Hitler. A Svengali (cringe). The devil incarnate. The more he's harrassed and persecuted, the more he comes out on top. You won't see it in overtly public acts of revenge like denying Bercow a peerage (yum).... “I don't think I am arrogant. I don't know very much about very much. Mr Grieve … we'll see what he's right about.” Where is Grieve now? Nowhere. He's a nobody with a tinge of betrayal and treachery lingering around him. You'll see the BBC under his microscope soon. Perhaps some tightening on media conduct and clarity on "public interest".

DC's not a "tory spin doctor" - he couldn't give a stuff about image, public impressions, or superficial appearances. He wants to get s*** done. If he ruffles feathers along the way, he'll give zero f***s (and thank god for that). He's fully intending to rip up the deep state and BBC supporting act. I can't wait.

Rent. Free.

Classic Dom.

...and incidentally, £1.99 on Amazon. Something for both sides of the Brexit debate. It's also a long read, for those twiddling thumbs on Boris-leave.

[Link]

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 26 May 20 3.18pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

I've seen quite a few of these types of polls during lockdown. There was one last week asking parents if they were concerned about their children's mental health during lock down. Unsuprisingly, out of the people that bothered to respond, it came back saying the majority of parents were concerned.

It's not just the polls but mainstream media as well. The BBC talked to two old buffers that they found sitting on a bench in Darlington asking them what they thought of Cummings behaviour and naturally they responded negatively.

It makes one wonder how many others they interviewed before they found those two

 

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View Cpfc1861's Profile Cpfc1861 Flag 26 May 20 3.24pm Send a Private Message to Cpfc1861 Add Cpfc1861 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

A former Labour Party advisor (can’t remember her name) on GMB showed her true colours when she said “ we are not able to go and stay on daddy’s huge estate are we” please explain the relevance of his father’s wealth in this matter. Or is it the left being unable to accept he may have money. Incidentally she was talking from a very nice house in North London

She was Ayesha Hazarika, educated are private all girls school in Glasgow

Edited by Spiderman (26 May 2020 12.15pm)

I love how hard labour try and pretend to be working class its cringey and dishonest at least with starmer there is none of that he knows what he is and working class people will support him not because he is from any social class but if he can prove to be a better alternative to Boris which remains to be seen. I f***ing hate identity politics "daddies private estate" coming from a privately educated well spoken MP LOL

 

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 26 May 20 3.32pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

...and incidentally, £1.99 on Amazon. Something for both sides of the Brexit debate. It's also a long read, for those twiddling thumbs on Boris-leave.

[Link]

Edit: "Paleosceptics", that's what Shipman called the ERG old-guard. Sorry, was bugging me trying to remember!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 26 May 20 3.34pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Would you be so up in arms if Corbyn had won the election and his special advisor (Karl Marx) had been caught bending the rules?


That"s the thing, 99% on here and in life defend their chosen side, red or blue, no matter what they do, as it"s the opposite side attacking that rile them, that" what makes these threads a bit pointless,although the original reason for this one is life changing, just gone off topic a few times! The respect i give is when i see a poster slagging off his own team, red or blue!

 

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View Cpfc1861's Profile Cpfc1861 Flag 26 May 20 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Cpfc1861 Add Cpfc1861 as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


That"s the thing, 99% on here and in life defend their chosen side, red or blue, no matter what they do, as it"s the opposite side attacking that rile them, that" what makes these threads a bit pointless,although the original reason for this one is life changing, just gone off topic a few times! The respect i give is when i see a poster slagging off his own team, red or blue!

of course your right in either case I honestly wouldn't be baying for blood because I dont think it's really that big a deal but if it was karl Marx or however you want to describe I wouldn't want him gone but I wouldn't defend him either. Truth is I think Cummings is to important for Boris to lose over something blown wildly out of proportion
so it's better to keep him.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 May 20 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

I'm going to bookend my comment from the start of this episode, and then (I hope) say no more on the matter.

I do love that DC has been living rent-free in the heads of the many remainiac anti-Brexit mouth-frothers, both on here and on the leftwaffe social media generally.

"Oh no, it's nothing to do with Brexit! Steve Baker LOLZ". I mean Baker absolutely loathes DC, as would be evident if you've read either of Shipman's two books. In fact, the ERG in general detest DC - what was it he referred to them as? Something witty conflating Brexit with Fossils or Dinosaurs. That's exactly why Peter Bone et al. were not involved in the campaign, and instead formed "Grassroots Out". There's a lot of (as ever) tribal politics at play here - DC does a good job of generally being hated, but getting the job done. He's not in it to make friends, unlike Boris (who genuinely has problems with people hating him).

DC has exposed the rabid pack of wolves that we call the media, without really trying, and sent the twittersphere into paroxysms of "Brexit MaN bAd!" rage. Again, without really trying. All that remains now (and it will happen IMO), is for the police to confirm he acted within the law, and proportionately. Had I had the same resources available to me, including two young (lowest risk-category) nieces on-hand to take on care of my child had we both been hospitalised (given DC has pre-existing conditions, a plausible risk), I would also have taken that choice. This guy war-games for a living. It's literally his bread and water. Evaluate scenarios, determine best outcome, weigh up compromises, risks. I doubt he's ever done anything half-cock. If his critical reasoning led him to this outcome as being optimal in terms of infection risk etc, then so be it. Criticise him for being a parent looking out for his family. If he was flagrantly breaking the rules, he would have gone to his Uncle's funeral. He didn't.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. You hate him. He's literally Hitler. A Svengali (cringe). The devil incarnate. The more he's harrassed and persecuted, the more he comes out on top. You won't see it in overtly public acts of revenge like denying Bercow a peerage (yum).... “I don't think I am arrogant. I don't know very much about very much. Mr Grieve … we'll see what he's right about.” Where is Grieve now? Nowhere. He's a nobody with a tinge of betrayal and treachery lingering around him. You'll see the BBC under his microscope soon. Perhaps some tightening on media conduct and clarity on "public interest".

DC's not a "tory spin doctor" - he couldn't give a stuff about image, public impressions, or superficial appearances. He wants to get s*** done. If he ruffles feathers along the way, he'll give zero f***s (and thank god for that). He's fully intending to rip up the deep state and BBC supporting act. I can't wait.

Rent. Free.

Classic Dom.

Great post.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 May 20 4.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Why does that matter? He’s the prime minister’s special advisor and has a direct role in designing policy, including the lockdown measures. He has undermined his position and now people will wonder why on Earth they should continue to listen to the government.

More fool them if they did....way over the top and illiberal.....ridiculous scenes of police stopping people going into their own gardens and forcing people out of parks.

Perhaps this says more about your desire for the state to be your nanny than it does anything else.

 


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